The level up thread!

[Soft Serve]

wow that means no milk either...I woulden't be able to do it.

Milk, Soda, and Tea are all I drink. And Flavored water but thats only if theres nothing else.

[GoddessGood]

Oh, I forgot milk. Yeah, I drink that too, but I should probably stop that. It's just that cereal is all I have time for in the morning anymore :S

[Valdar]

Telling parents how to raise their kids is a touchy subject. Would you prevent a parent from raising their kid vegetarian, when that's a core belief that they want to pass onto their progeny (or at least, try)? In this country, we have parents that are raising their kids to be racist, violent, chain smokers, or to have more kids than they can afford- surely we'd stop this first, rather than attack what may be a healthier diet?

I've recently gone semi-veg- I'll eat meat a few times a week, but I think there's plenty of ways to get protein without all that extra fat and cholesterol (and yes, I know that cheese contains enzymes from animals, so it isn't even vegetarian). Check public health rates in this country- heart disease is pretty much linked to access to meat (I'd say tobacco too, but heart disease is still on the rise with smoking plummeting, so...)

Mushroom pizza? Has to have something with it- olives at least, maybe even sausage, and certainly a ton of pepper flakes. Mushrooms don't have enough flavor to stand on their own.

[1958Fury]

Telling parents how to raise their kids is a touchy subject. Would you prevent a parent from raising their kid vegetarian, when that's a core belief that they want to pass onto their progeny (or at least, try)?

I don't know if this is true, maybe someone can confirm. But I've heard that if you don't eat any meat by the time you're seven (or so), that you can never eat meat, because the body doesn't learn how to digest it.

IF true, then that's a problem. It's one thing to say, "As long as you live under my roof, you're a vegetarian, but once you're 18 you can do what you like." But it's another thing to push your choice on the child, knowing full well that it means they'll never be able to eat meat, even after they grow up and can make their own decisions.

[tesral]

Telling parents how to raise their kids is a touchy subject. Would you prevent a parent from raising their kid vegetarian, when that's a core belief that they want to pass onto their progeny (or at least, try)? In this country, we have parents that are raising their kids to be racist, violent, chain smokers, or to have more kids than they can afford- surely we'd stop this first, rather than attack what may be a healthier diet?

Mushroom pizza? Has to have something with it- olives at least, maybe even sausage, and certainly a ton of pepper flakes. Mushrooms don't have enough flavor to stand on their own.

That is my problem with it. Mushrooms assume flavors they are cooked with. They have very little of their own.

As to the former, sure, it's one thing to raise a kid from the start that way, but tell them at the age of 12 they have to switch? A person is mostly made at that point. It might ber her family and her kids, but I don't approve.

Never mind I object on biological principles. We are omnivores, not herbivores. I like my veggies too. However I like meat, and enjoy meat. I eat the diet my body is made to eat and that includes animals.

My wife baked bread last night. Honest flower, water, eggs, and yeast bread. That one pound loaf didn't last passed dinner tonight. It is all we ate last night. Big, thick slices of warm oven fresh bread with melted butter. The left overs topped off our peas and chicken tonight.

I have refused to eat white bread for years. The store bought stuff is worst than tasteless. I have not changed my mind about factory made bread, but I'll take that stuff that came out of the oven any day.

[Talmek]

Chinese take-out, Pizza and KC style BBQ. Also, my beau's pot roast is pretty great .

Pray for me folks, I'm entering my 3rd week after quitting soda cold-turkey. More than anything I'm just trying to cut out artificial preservatives and sweeteners, so I'm just drinking water, tea, coffee and juice. I miss the convenience a lot, since pretty much any time I want a drink I have to go and prepare it.

Think of it this way: By being forced to prepare your drinks, it will give you time to think about how good it will be!

Ain't psychology grand!

[GoddessGood]

Haha, no more often I'm just too lazy to get up and get dehydrated in spite of myself.

[Dimthar]

Telling parents how to raise their kids is a touchy subject.... ...surely we'd stop this first, rather than attack what may be a healthier diet?

I rembember that last year (?) Japan put some Laws into place in order to "Fine" Companies which did not control / motivated / forced (?) their employees to loose weight. I wonder how it worked for them so far.

Although there is little arguments against loosing some unhealthy weight, my first thought was on how many lawsuits would be made in USA if such a Law passed. Freedom to do the "Wrong" thing and all.

You can eat until you kill yourself, but how about the impact on your children, not just the bad example, but the potential loss of a parental figure, loss of income which can end on less opportunities to go to college, or the cost to tax payers for your reckless gluttony, shoud Child Protection Services intervene if your kids are obese?

Who decides what is Wrong?

What works better, the carrot or the stick?

WHO KILLED THE COMMANDER!?

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[tesral]

Well as surprising as it might sound, it is possible to have strong opinions and not shove them down someone throat

[Valdar]

Think of it this way: By being forced to prepare your drinks, it will give you time to think about how good it will be!

Ain't psychology grand!

I'm forcing myself to prepare my drinks too, but that's just because I'm working on my mixology.

Oh wait, you meant healthy drinks. My bad
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You can eat until you kill yourself, but how about the impact on your children, not just the bad example, but the potential loss of a parental figure, loss of income which can end on less opportunities to go to college, or the cost to tax payers for your reckless gluttony, shoud Child Protection Services intervene if your kids are obese?

That's the nature of Public Health. I think the major issue will be when society has to take on the costs of health care for the uninsured obese, just like it has to now for the uninsured chain smoker or seat belt non-wearer. The extreme view is to let people die that brought on such problems on themselves, but we're more civilized than that in practice.

For now, though, cheap calories rule, so we'll see more obesity in the short term. I wouldn't even call it gluttony- the sort of meal you get served through your car window will fatten you, even if you eat what feels like a sensible amount...

[Soft Serve]

I'm forcing myself to prepare my drinks too, but that's just because I'm working on my mixology.

Oh wait, you meant healthy drinks. My bad

Haha! I don't drink, but we have a book on Mixology here and I really want to learn how to do all that nifty stuff. I mean I can juggle, I'll never drink my own supply, so I have great bartender potential...lol.

[DragonPrince]

Yeah the gov't says it is bad to smoke, drink, and eat certain foods. But if you don't smoke, drink or eat certain foods you can still end up dying from the same things. UMMMM What sense does that make???

I have eaten red meat for most of my life, i am also a smoker, and yes I drink even now and then. I am healthy, no problems to my knowledge. I even just had a complete physical and passed that with flying colors....

[Soft Serve]

Because Alcohol still impares your ability to drive, and destroys brain cells along with your liver. You can still lose braincells by headbanging or doing other violent things involving your forehead/skull area, and you can always damage your kidneys being on the loseing end of a good fight. But Alcohol is sure fire going to kill those both for you, and potentially destroy your primary vehicle. I mean didn't you see page 5,000 of the DMG 3.5? "If a character is driving a wagon after drinking at least one more ale over their CON score they take a -4 penalty on their drive checks."

(not really)

Lung cancer is actually really popular now in people who didn't smoke just because somewhere down the line their grandparents we're lighting up some Winston Cigarettes happily advertised by the early Flintstones commercials (You know...so they would apply to children. Not unlike how Disney advertises their bands by making all the female fans reach for the crotch area of the male singers so they can sell sex to 13-and-under girls)

So if smoking doesnt' immediately affect you, and your lungs are perfectly fine, secondhand smoke hits people near you who aren't as healthy with their lungs, it could affect your family somewhere down the line, and your helping giant evil companies afford their giant evil ways.



...But red meat is f-in amazing.

[GoddessGood]

...But red meat is f-in amazing.

This. Then again, red meat is the reason my house is full of smoke right now and my eyes are burning. The hubs tried to make salisbury steak the other night in my cast iron dutch oven. He let the sucker cook for over an hour and a half (because it was "braising") in the gravy. By the time he opened the lid, there was no gravy. Just a brownish, pasty goo at the bottom and some crunchy meat patties. I told him clean up was on him . Unfortunately, his method of cleaning the cast iron dutch oven was to boil water in it to get the gunk off. Well, the gunk came off ... but so did the seasoned coating. Bare iron rusts really well, so I'm currently re-seasoning it, a process which requires coating the pot in crisco (or other fatty oil) and baking it at 350 for an hour. Hence the smoke.

[Valdar]

So if smoking doesnt' immediately affect you, and your lungs are perfectly fine, secondhand smoke hits people near you who aren't as healthy with their lungs, it could affect your family somewhere down the line, and your helping giant evil companies afford their giant evil ways.

I even hate third-hand smoke, if that's what you call it. You know when people come inside after courteously smoking outside, and they smell like they've been osmoting the smoke by rubbing burning tobacco leaves all over their skin and clothes? Yeah, that. Sorry, if there's smoke visibly rising off your clothes, you're still smoking inside even if you've already stubbed out your cig.