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    ...or do Shadar-kai remind anyone else of the Necromongers from Chronicles of Riddick?

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    lol what's a shardar-kai?

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    A group of shady humanoids from the Shadowfell. (Shady? Get it?) They're in the 4e MM, and I think in the 3e Fiend Folio.

    I haven't seen The Chronicles of Riddick, though, so I can't compare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fmitchell View Post
    A group of shady humanoids from the Shadowfell. (Shady? Get it?) They're in the 4e MM, and I think in the 3e Fiend Folio.

    I haven't seen The Chronicles of Riddick, though, so I can't compare.
    I'm on the other end of this spectrum. I've seen Chronicles but do not recall anything about the Shadar-kai. Will have to research.

    FYI, the Chronicles of Riddick video game was awesome...probably better than the second movie.
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    They are very similar to the necromongers, thats why I like em! But I find the "normal" races a bit boring anyhow.



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    D&D has always swiped with a will and usually managed to rub the serial numbers off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tesral View Post
    D&D has always swiped with a will and usually managed to rub the serial numbers off.
    That's true. I was noticing that Kuo-tua, the Far Realm and all the Abberent creatures make it easy to make a Call of Cthulhu type game within D`aD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidan View Post
    That's true. I was noticing that Kuo-tua, the Far Realm and all the Abberent creatures make it easy to make a Call of Cthulhu type game within D`aD.
    And one must not forget that the earliest printings of Deities & Demigods actually included write-ups for Cthulhu and his ilk in the book.
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    My favorite is the picture on page 112 of the 3.5 DMG II of the giant flaming eye on top of a mountain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webhead View Post
    And one must not forget that the earliest printings of Deities & Demigods actually included write-ups for Cthulhu and his ilk in the book.
    And boy did they fail their "rub the serial numbers off roll". I have a copy of that edition BTW.

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    In the release "Zombies" they(WOTC) ripped off the video game Left 4 Dead almost exactly. They zombies are about 98% similar to the Left 4 Dead ones, the art is not and a few of the abilities and or powers are slightly changed. At first I did not really see it, but then going back and reading the entries and the powers of each "zombie" it became clear what they were trying to do. Kind of sad when the devs have to steal material from a video game, oh wait....well that is the whole 4E isnt it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochin View Post
    In the release "Zombies" they(WOTC) ripped off the video game Left 4 Dead almost exactly. They zombies are about 98% similar to the Left 4 Dead ones, the art is not and a few of the abilities and or powers are slightly changed. At first I did not really see it, but then going back and reading the entries and the powers of each "zombie" it became clear what they were trying to do. Kind of sad when the devs have to steal material from a video game, oh wait....well that is the whole 4E isnt it?
    How are those zombies differnt from 98% of other zombies portrayed in the popular media? I think it's more likely that both the video game and the devs drew from the same source.

    And no, 4e is not a video game, and saying it is doesn't make it so, no matter how many times people parrot it.
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    Haven't seen any of the Riddick movies, either.

    There was some thought for a while that Shadar-Kai would be a PC race in PHB2, but looks like that's not the case (it will be Shifter instead).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidan View Post
    How are those zombies differnt from 98% of other zombies portrayed in the popular media? I think it's more likely that both the video game and the devs drew from the same source.

    And no, 4e is not a video game, and saying it is doesn't make it so, no matter how many times people parrot it.

    Well the 4 special zombies in Left 4 dead are fairly unique. WOTC or the author of the bit, used that game as an idea for their media. Having read about Left 4 Dead for a while now, way before launch, for WOTC to release their "zombies" article now is hard to mistake for ripping it off.

    About 4e being a video game, well everyone I know has compaired it to WOW. Even the head R&D guys have said they wanted to attract people from WOW to DND. I played WOW for all of 10 minutes(5 of which was making my character) and I disliked it very much. I as well as many others can see how 4e is full of WOW goodness(well badness, but that is another post). I used to love DND, i was a fanboy, now I feel wronged at how they put it out. I know many people said the same about 3.0, but 3.0 was still similar to 2nd. With the powers, lack of skill system, and the amount WOTC is ripping off other companies, it is just not the same beast anymore. Will I still play 4e, sure, as it is more of a social thing.



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    Huh... 4e has a skill system, in fact wasn't it take straight from Spycraft's skill system, which was a mixture of AD&D and 3.0? Powers have always been around... every play any of the old Superhero systems? They have powers, they just gave 4e heroes super hero like powers. It is strange to play D&D with crazy named powers.

    Also, Shadar-kai are too emo and looky too whimpy to be necromongers, although they are similar. Ripping out people's souls is pretty awesome, being a crying emo child is not.

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