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    Not in the Rules

    I'm paging through my old Dragon issues, looking to streamline my closet, when I come across a Knight-class ability to defend another character from attack. It included a mechanic about giving Dodge bonus to another character, which I couldn't fathom, but it had me wondering:

    How do you use the 3.5 rules to simulate body-guarding action? How does one character hide on the far side of another? Or how does one character move to consistently block another? Does Ready Action cover all the implications involved?

    What other actions (like the infamous slide down a bannister) aren't clearly covered by the rules?
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    I think you just go with your gut or maybe try to play it out live. If a knight has an ability to continuously get inbetween and opponent and a friend then I can see there being a bonus. It probably should be some form of cover like that provided by a tower shield or other barrier. Or you could rule an attack of opportunity by the knight upon the the opponent when that opponent attacks the friend.

    The books are only guides and not meant for your games to run on autopilot. And I'd rule the slide down the bannister as a double move in a standard action.

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    You provide cover for your allies. That is the basic mechanic. Anything beyond that would be a feat or class feature.

    Ready would allow you and your ally to move simultaneously, though, technically in game terms one of you is actually moving before the other but I wouldn't stress it too much, as long as you are on the same initiative it should be fine.

    As far as sliding down a banister, it would require or count as a move action using up the necessary movement and I would also require a balance check DC X.
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    You could use the "Aid Another" attack action to provide your ally a +2 AC bonus against an opponent's next attack. To do this, you take a standard action making an attack roll versus AC 10. If you succeed, you can grant your ally a +2 bonus to attack or AC against the opponent you choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farcaster View Post
    You could use the "Aid Another" attack action to provide your ally a +2 AC bonus against an opponent's next attack. To do this, you take a standard action making an attack roll versus AC 10. If you succeed, you can grant your ally a +2 bonus to attack or AC against the opponent you choose.
    Really? It is +2 to attack OR AC? I never realized that! I have found a new tactic!
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    Aye, +2 to either one as you choose. Very useful, and it can be stacked! So, if you find yourself in the situation where one person has a particularly useful attack (such as a bane weapon) while everyone else cannot do much to get past the opponent's DR (for instance) then multiple members could do this to help their ally get +4, +6 or even higher to his next attack -- or AC.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Farcaster View Post
    Aye, +2 to either one as you choose. Very useful, and it can be stacked! So, if you find yourself in the situation where one person has a particularly useful attack (such as a bane weapon) while everyone else cannot do much to get past the opponent's DR (for instance) then multiple members could do this to help their ally get +4, +6 or even higher to his next attack -- or AC.



    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/spe...htm#aidAnother

    You're also forget allowing the person to power attack when otherwise he could not.

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    I'm not sure how you accomplish giving someone a power attack with "Aid Another"... I haven't heard of that before.
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    Ah, ye olde Aid Another! So the defending character would ready an Aid, and the defended character would ready a move action to the opposite side of the defender. At best, this would provide no attack on the defendee (out of reach). If in reach, +2 AC from aid and +4 AC from soft cover. Or if the attacker is inhumanly fast, just the +2 Aid bonus if the attacker is within reach.

    Also not in the rules: momentum. A mounted fighter charges some poor sap in combat. After the ferocious lance attack, he and his horse aren't required to budge an inch! Worse, if the attacker wants to charge away (and doesn't have Ride-by-Attack), he could face three attacks: one from receiving a charge, another from the defender's next turn taking place immediately before his, and an Opportunity Attack as he charges away.

    Honestly, I'm splitting hairs here. But maybe someone has tackled the issue?
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    We use aid another a lot, especially in spycraft 2.0

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