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    Depends on the players

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    Most of the time its critical to sub plots in some way, but i keep it mostly between NPC's. However, PC's have pursued it and i'm mature enough to follow. I'm not putting porn (70's guitar sounds here) into the game, but it can be a nice diversion or a sub plot to be exploited by a GM. The details are not important, nor is "size" - i just don't care to go there, but i've done fairly graphic narratives and 'gone to the kink side' a few times to give the players a glimpse of wierdness thats out of the ordinary. It can be fun. Strangely enough i have seen it create some jealous feelings - mostly in the case of having a family/mate to return to. You just have to know your players, and as a GM not be willing to shy away from it...

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    Our group has one kid who's barely an adult, and he gets his kicks out of managing to sleep with every female NPC that shows up in the game. I personally don't see the thrill of it, as both our DM for the D&D game and our Storyteller for the WoD game are male... but whatever.
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    Just tell him about the Gygax corellary. Maybe that'll curb his wanton ways

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    However it was funny as hell to watch two straight guys roleplay a romantic situation after one got hit with a sex change, and have it critiqued by the two gay players.
    I'm dying to hear how this went!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moritz View Post
    ... It only takes once to fix a player of wanting IC relationships. Stick to being a super hero or a dungeon crawler.
    I can't disagree with you more. Super hero and dungeon crawler are jobs. What do the characters do when they come home from their jobs? Or are they just lonely, dejected workaholics with bro-mance crushes on their comrades? Boring and yuck, imho.

    In character love, romance and sex are crucial parts of the human experience, but not necessarily a major part of the genre you're playing in. It depends on the setting, the GM's story themes and the players involved if it's appropriate or not. If it breaks suspension of disbelief, then chuck it. If it heightens the player's involvement with their characters, doesn't hurt the story or anyone's feelings, then I say go for it.

    I ran a Demon: the Fallen game for a group of friends and one of them developed an IC obsession with an NPC. I was 17 at the time and absolutely had no idea how to handle it. It was creepy, weird, but oddly in character and very much in theme for the game I was running. I kick myself for not being mature enough to have made it great. Another time I bungled it (humorously, though) was in an Exalted game. A player burned a letter from his family without reading it. He was rather surprised when a woman and her retinue showed up on his doorstep; see, the letter had been to let him know that his (arranged) bride would be showing up and that his family were tired of him wasting his life, so he should settle down. He tried convincing her he was an bad person, that he was a conspirator that wanted to destroy the government, and any number of other things, but she held fast because their families had already agreed and she was honor-bound. So what did the player do? He had her killed by another PC. Not exactly the most romantic of endings, but we still laugh about it.

    Another PC had his (presumed) dead girlfriend return to him and save him from a curse. If he'd wanted to remain in the game, I had other machinations to enact upon the pair, but c'est la vie. NPC/NPC relations are assumed and I've always wanted to have the sort of PC/NPC relationships Dimthar was talking about in my games as something that's available, but only if the players want to explore it. I'm still working to perfect my technique, I suppose, but I hope my players are patient enough to let me figure it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimthar View Post
    How many of your characters have "fallen in Love" to an NPC?
    Maybe a half dozen of my characters over the years.

    I think anything a character is passionate about and a PC is willing to play out is AWESOME plot. So love can certainly be great plot. I tend to go somewhere between pg-13 to R depending on my players and the situation. We arnt going to RP a sex scene if its just a sex scene (perhaps some foreplay and then fade to black) but if the lover is a mutant spider who transforms during passion from their human form into giant spider form... Yeah thats getting played out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimthar View Post
    One of the natural results of roleplaying CHARISMA is its effect on the opposite sex. Barmaids can be impressed by gallant and courteous adventurers. Princesses and Noble girls may feel attracted by Knights in shiny armor. Others prefer scoundrels.
    And the big hunking shy fellow that would sit and bend his helmet out of shape pining for the PC fighter girl. I goes both ways.

    And yes love or even lust as a motivator for plot hooks. Rescue the whoever, save my beloved,

    The only time I did the princess as prize it was in such a way that the male PCs were; "Like, can we be heroes and not marry the princess? I have girlfriend at home I just remembered, and I really love her." I rather object to the old save the kingdom get the female paradigm. So the prize princess was anything but a prize. They later found out she was really a nice girl, but was playing the slut and shrew to prevent the arranged marriage thing. Daddy didn't get it that she wanted to choose her own husband. They ended up friends with the princess and with an in to that Knigdom.




    Quote Originally Posted by MortonStromgal View Post
    Maybe a half dozen of my characters over the years.

    I think anything a character is passionate about and a PC is willing to play out is AWESOME plot. So love can certainly be great plot. I tend to go somewhere between pg-13 to R depending on my players and the situation. We arnt going to RP a sex scene if its just a sex scene (perhaps some foreplay and then fade to black) but if the lover is a mutant spider who transforms during passion from their human form into giant spider form... Yeah thats getting played out.
    The spider thing is different. I had one PC that willing became a fruit dragon to marry her beloved. Strange relationship. It started with him climbing her armor and spewing hot lemon cream down inside her breastplate.

    I am in the same zone about playing it out. Keep it light, keep it fun.

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    Never had too many times of my PC falling in love with someone, but the other way around certainly wasn't true.

    My bard and the rest of the party went to go 'deal' with a red dragon. My bard also knew dragon as a language thanks to some friendly dealings with chromatics in the past, to the point my bard incorporated it into his singing as a part of his reputation. We were using the reputation rules out of the bard's handbook for that.

    Well, things went from bad to worse and the party ended up getting caught by said dragon. I was recognized, yanked out of the line up and everyone else was dumped into a pit. We ended the session at that time but the rest was played out in emails.

    Essentially, This dragon wasn't a dragon, she was a dragoNESS. We had the full discussion in email back and forth, and he made the rolls at the end of the night. (nothing naughty happened, so don't go that way)

    Beginning of the next gaming session, she let us all go, no threats, no nothing. Not even a demand of any kind, just asked if I would come back to visit her... everyone was looking at me as we left, and the paladin asked, "Do I even want to know?" Talk about uncomfortable...

    We got back into town and reported what happened, then well, hell broke out. She came by to visit, scared the shit out of the guards and everyone around, dropped off the peasant girl she nabbed for lunch the day before and flew off. And everyone was looooooking at me...

    "Dragonsinger": WHAT?!

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    As the DM told it, the dice gods must have loved me that night as he rolld for her reaction, high = good for us, low = good for her (lunch time).

    20. He rolled to see as is his usual to see if it was a double crit. 20. Triple? 20.

    She came into our adventures a few times after that, that's for sure. Even got teased by the paladin asking if she was my pet dragon.... I kicked his ass for that one.

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