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    Now we all know that despite the first 3 Star Wars movies and possibly THX-1138 that Uncle Georgie is just as capable of making movies that stink as the next guy.
    But with all the drek out there to choose from, how do we decide which is the absolute worst.
    Now I know what a few of you must be thinking....

    "It's gotta be Howard the Duck!"......now I will grant you, it IS a pretty freakin' bad movie....by no stretch of the imagination.
    (I still giggle a bit when the Dark Overlord comments on how the waitress took his eggs away before he had finished)
    "Nawww, its gotta be Willow!!"....okay, ya nearly had me there but to be honest, the entire movie was done as a test run for the Ewok villages in RotJ so at least as far as I am concerned...it doesn't really count, as it was never meant to be taken seriously in the first place...which leads us inevitably to:
    "It gotta be those two made-for-TV Ewok movies!"...For me personally....that stupid song and dance routine at the end of the Saga Movies (in its first run and not any of the expanded editions that followed)
    was pretty much as close to a kick in the pills as Lucas could get without you wanting to declare legal action as a direct result.

    They ALL have merit on the stinker-scale but by his own words, there is one shame that still exists beyond all others!

    If you need proof of this, all you need do is try and find a legit copy...(you won't find one)...or look in the torrents for a non-legit copy...(you STILL won't find one)
    What is this all-time "King-of-the-Stinkers"?
    Why, none other than:
    "THE STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL"
    Featuring Bea Arthur and Harvey Corman....like that wasn't bad enough...HE MADE THEM SING...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
    Lucas was overheard commenting that watching that special for the first time on TV was the "lowest point of his entire life"...now I will grant you, his divorce was still a few years off but I have never heard of that statement being recanted in all the years since!!
    The ONLY positive thing that came out of the entirity of that show was the introduction of a character in an animated short that would eventually become known as "Boba Fett"
    Harrision Ford and Carrie Fisher and even Mr Corvette Summer himself all had cameos in this nightmare far, far, (not far enough) away.
    I remember watching it when it was first released and I think I can say without fear of contradiction that mentioning the "Star Wars Christmas Special" to George Lucas nowadays will result in an unexpected furious combination of right hooks followed up by a few boots to the cranium (just to be sure you will never mention it again) from the series creator himself.

    Perhaps you have a better example....
    Please share them and your insights.

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    I actually liked Howard The Duck and have it on my DVD wish list. I have all the comics and the full sized, magazine comics as well.

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    Testimony, from (a caricature of) the Man, Himself. (And others.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freejack View Post
    I actually liked Howard The Duck and have it on my DVD wish list. I have all the comics and the full sized, magazine comics as well.

    Carl
    As do I.
    Started collecting Howard and Man-Thing at the same time...even the large sized magazines with micheal golden doin' the artwork.
    (I especially liked the one where howard gets to go home to duckworld and has to stop nixon in the 70's...(or is that duxon?))
    I even have a store bought copy of howard the duck.
    Its just a horrible movie....Lucas Destroyed what could have been a cult classic.
    Lea thompson as Bev.......sorry...lea just didn't have enough "cakes for her cups" to play miss swtizler in the first place...and second of all...SHE NEVER PULLED EM OUT EITHER....and that happened rather regularly in the comic book...(IT EVEN HAPPENED REGULARLY IN EVERY MOVIE SHE MADE AFTER SPACE CAMP)....what happened to the Boobies?!!
    How about choosing Thomas Dolby for the soundtrack....then renaming his band "cherrybomb".
    Its like shooting yourself in both feet before entering the boston marathon and then diving head first at the pavement when the starter pistol sounds then crying foul when you finally regain conciousness.
    To start with...every problem with howard the duck might have been remedied had it been released for the originally intended target audience
    (16+......not PG-13)....but no, and so we recieved the coffee table geriatric safe politically-correct BS that h-wood tries to pass off as mainstream entertainment.
    I even remember dragging my friends to the theatre to see it....I STILL get ragged about it to this VERY day.....over 20 years later!
    Few movies are truely so bad that 20 years of neverending ribbing actually comes across as justifiable!
    (Except now whenever they bring up howard the duck at me....I throw "Megaforce" right back in their faces!)
    I STILL enjoy watching HtD....but I don't subject any of my friends to it when I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sascha View Post
    Testimony, from (a caricature of) the Man, Himself. (And others.)
    THAT was funny!
    I would have mentioned prequel movies...but there was so much more material to choose from!

    Good Call

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eryiedes View Post
    ...I think I can say without fear of contradiction that mentioning the "Star Wars Christmas Special" to George Lucas nowadays will result in an unexpected furious combination of right hooks followed up by a few boots to the cranium (just to be sure you will never mention it again) from the series creator himself...
    Though not related to 'ole Georgie, this comment reminded me of the rumors I've heard through the years that Tim Curry tends to either fervently deny or flatly ignore the existence of The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Kinda funny when you think about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webhead View Post
    Though not related to 'ole Georgie, this comment reminded me of the rumors I've heard through the years that Tim Curry tends to either fervently deny or flatly ignore the existence of The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Kinda funny when you think about it...
    True Dat!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eryiedes View Post
    What is this all-time "King-of-the-Stinkers"?
    Why, none other than:
    "THE STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL"
    I remember when that aired (am I showing my age or what). That was so bad Lucas wont even release it (if I am remembering right). I think you can still watch it on youtube.
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    I also liked Howard the Duck, but granted I haven't seen it in at least 12 years. And Willow wasn't so bad.

    I do want to see the Holiday Special, because I want to see just how bad it was.
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    I know George Lucas makes some terribad movies and such, but in terms of how he's been treated since the three Star Wars prequels I kinda feel sorry for Lucas. I know the three prequels are bad - when they came out I drunk the Kool-Aid and believed they were good too, but eventually I wised up - but, well, you can't judge a person by the movies they make. Granted, I don't know Lucas in person or anything like that, but if all Lucas did was make terribad movies and alter perception of the first three movies for the worse (and to be honest, too many people revolve too much of their life around those first three movies...no offense to anyone here), well, that places him far above a lot of politicians.

    But, if you ask me, Lucas himself is part of the problem here because he's still too fixated on Star Wars. If Lucas wants to regain his credibility as a filmmaker and pop culture icon, he needs to do one thing: reinvent himself.

    In other words, do something else besides Star Wars. (And no, Indiana Jones doesn't count.)

    Lucas needs to work on something entirely new. Some brand new, original intellectual property, that's as far from Star Wars as he can get. If he can do an original work that is good enough to get people's minds off his most recent Star Wars trainwreck, I'd say he has a shot at redeeming himself. But if he continues to retread old ground and have his head stuck in...the past, well, maybe he does deserve the treatment he's getting now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webimpulse View Post
    In other words, do something else besides Star Wars. (And no, Indiana Jones doesn't count.)
    If anyone can reinvent the wheel he can. I dont think there is a fan boy around that wouldn't drool for an original concept from ol George.
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    I will allow that I might drool; but he is going to have to work for it.

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