View Full Version : The Story of the Bucket Paladin

12-19-2008, 04:22 AM
So we are a very experienced group who are running the campaign Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil. But we were running a little low on players. One of our members said that we need to start training the next generation of players. So he advised that we let his 13 year old nephew to join in on the campaign. We all accepted it as a pretty good idea. Now it is worth mentioning now that his nephew has no RP experience except World of Warcraft. The WoW experience turned out to be a negative thing. But, on the play day he decided he wanted to play a Paladin. We told him that it wasn't easy to play a Paladin because of all the strict moral and ethic codes but he wanted to play it anyways. As he was figuring out what his equipment would be the following conversation occured.

Nephew: What's better, a barrel, a basket, or a backpack?

Player A: Huh? What do you mean?

Nephew: What's better to carry things in?

Player A: Ok. You have to understand that you have to view this as real life. Now you yourself, what would you rather carry along with you when you go walking down a road?

Nephew: A barrel!

Player A: ....ok...

At this point I stood up and displayed how that would work. I did the motion of dragging a heavy barrel across the floor. Then I did the motion of picking a basket up with two hands and walking with. Then I did the motion of picking up a backpack, slinging it over my shoulder, and walking normally.

Player A: OK. After that what do you think would be easier to carry with you when you go into a cave to fight monsters?

Nephew: ....a basket! a basket!

Player B: No. No. It's a backpack.

So we shook our head and discussed what it was like when we were noobs. When after a few seconds he asked us our next question.

Nephew: Will I need a bucket?

Player A: What would you possibly need to carry a bucket around for?

Nephew: For water!

Player A: So your going to carry a bucket of water into battle with you?

Nephew: Yeah! Why not?

At this point you should picture a paladin with a sword in one hand and a bucket in the other shouting "for glory" and then charge into battle with the water splashing around.

He also got really confused when we explained to him that a Paladin is self sacrificing and all that. He thought it would be just like WoW. Of course, he is young and a noob. But it is still fun to give him a hard time.

12-19-2008, 05:28 AM
shows how kids who have not been affected by the cultural values of the omnipresent rat race are still free thinkers.

Bravo for the bucket paladin.

12-19-2008, 11:57 AM
As I recall, in one of the Dragonlance novel books, a young Kitiara Ulth Matar was able to immobilize a seasoned fighter with a bucket. So by all means, yes, bring on the bucket Paladin.

12-19-2008, 04:50 PM
That's an awesome story! Thanks for sharing. I run a game with a 12 year old and a 10 year old and we have some hilarious moments. It's really awesome to see things from their perspective. If you take a step back and understand the view that they're seeing the game from, it's all shiny and magical.

I had a similar conversation about what they had in their backpacks. I had given them 150g to buy starter stuff and they ended up using a ton of it miscellaneous stuff, food/drink and pets (I was in the middle of answering another question when my 10 year old asked how much small animals were, like rabbits and gophers and offhandedly I said "around 20g for a non-trained one" and then went back to my other discussion). Wow, did that open doors for them. They had hamsters, ferrets, rabbits, several mice, a long snake and a koala bear (!!) on their character sheet.

I would have asked them what it was all for... but we just went with it trying not to crack up laughing. It was a good night!

12-19-2008, 09:06 PM
I once used a bucket as a plot device for a warrior that wanted to join a Knightly Order. He had to carry a bucket of water into battle against the bad guys and NOT spill it.

It took him nearly five levels to end up doing it - and was admitted for his perseverance... most just quit after a couple of battles and realizing how hard it really was.

Huzzah for the Bucket Paladin!! :clap2::tea::cheer2:

12-21-2008, 08:54 PM
The Kid is ready for the British Marine Test.

12-21-2008, 10:29 PM
The Kid is ready for the British Marine Test.

LOL! :lol:

12-21-2008, 10:39 PM
Man, I don't care how old you are, or how long you've been gaming; that story has GOTTA bring you back!!! :lol:

I remember way back when, a buddy of mine used all his leftover starting gold to buy 50 saddlebags, so he could carry back all the treasure he'd find. Just picture what that horse must have looked like!

And c'mon... who here HASN'T had a PC with a 10' pole on his character sheet at least once. Seriously, what were we thinking???

There's a picture from Paizo's Pathfinder series of a dwarf LOADED DOWN with weapons and gear to the point where its ridiculous. But hey, have you ever really looked at a character sheet (especially from your earlier days) and pictured how the hell you carried all that??

Ah, good times! :biggrin:

12-22-2008, 12:03 AM
Ral Parth had one "The complete adventurer" Everything including on the very top of the pile, the kitchen sink.

12-22-2008, 02:07 AM
We always used encumbrance.

12-22-2008, 02:46 AM
We always used encumbrance.

Well that figure had it.

I generally find that encumbrance is more trouble than it's worth. My players are experienced and know what is too much.

12-22-2008, 07:46 AM
Speaking of the Bucket Paladin, I played a brief DnD campaign 2 years ago, that a buddy of mine played a character similar. What it was, he played a fighter. Thing is, he never carried a weapon with him. So, if he got into a fight, he would immediately grab the nearest weaponlike object and have at it. It actually got pretty funny, at one point he was using a broom like a weird halberd, against like five ogres.
Anyway, he took weird feats, like Weapon Focus (broken bottle). He called this character his "Junk Warrior".

12-22-2008, 10:52 AM
Speaking of the Bucket Paladin, I played a brief DnD campaign 2 years ago, that a buddy of mine played a character similar. What it was, he played a fighter. Thing is, he never carried a weapon with him. So, if he got into a fight, he would immediately grab the nearest weaponlike object and have at it. It actually got pretty funny, at one point he was using a broom like a weird halberd, against like five ogres.
Anyway, he took weird feats, like Weapon Focus (broken bottle). He called this character his "Junk Warrior".

Cute. A friend who watched such thing once pointed out to me that in Hercules: The Legendary Journeys Our hero never carried a sword, he always took one from the bad guys.

12-22-2008, 12:10 PM
As I recall, in one of the Dragonlance novel books, a young Kitiara Ulth Matar was able to immobilize a seasoned fighter with a bucket. So by all means, yes, bring on the bucket Paladin.

Thought that was a frying pan?

I love the story. When I read that he wanted a bucket my first though was to cut a make-shift opening into the bucket and use it as an improvised helmet and that he would have some creative story about being a paladin who was down on his luck. I can clearly see that was not his train of thought.

Reminds me of another creation story:

The new player was picking his equipment for a 2nd edition game back in 1995. Looking the items over he looks up to start the conversation:

New Player: What are edggs?

DM: A what?

New Player: Edggs? It says I can buy them buy the dozen but what are they?

DM: Spell it?

New Player: Edggis. E-G-G-S

DM: ... you mean Eggs?

New Player: Ohhh! One more question. What is a Sward and do I need a long one or a short one?

Thankfully the players reading comprehension level has dramatically increased since this incident. :)

12-22-2008, 04:25 PM
Thought that was a frying pan?


Nope -- Tika was the master of the frying pan. Along with Sam Gamgee and Marion Ravenwood.

It's in Dark Heart -- a teenage Kitiara bests a dwarven veteran with a brush and a bucket.

12-22-2008, 06:00 PM
Actually, Sam Gamgee was the master of the thrown apple ;)

12-22-2008, 06:24 PM
I recently started a game with my 9 yr old son as one of the players...he's played the minis game and WOW on a private server that didn't have outside access (I knew everyone on there) and has played in a pbp just for younger kids (very well done too).

He had the best RP out of everyone...he kept doing things he wanted to do to explore the world..his ranger would escort pearl divers (to keep the sea beasts off) every morning, then go fishing with the fishing net he bought, then show up with the rest of the party munching fish he barbequed on a fire on the beach. I was shocked! He toasted experienced RPers in terms of concept and flavor. I got proud papa syndrome from it....(but of course you guys are the only ones who would understand that..)

12-24-2008, 11:33 AM
awesome kudos! i reference my other post in the newbie moments thread concerning my halfling who carried 3+ 10' poles and used one of them to perform pole vaulting attacks at enemies that wound up dying just before he hit them due to other player actions. ^^

12-24-2008, 12:57 PM
Black the Dwarf , one of my wife's characters. He picked up everything. "Might need it later" was his usual reason. He had multiple bags of holding just to haul around the junk he hauled around. String, wire, sticks, elk antlers, you name. And his main weapon was a yo-yo. A yo-yo with pop-out blades but a yo-yo. You didn't want to wind that thing the wrong way. And his enduring goal was to learn to forge lightning bolts.

12-28-2008, 04:58 PM
Sadly, Friday night saw the end of the Bucket Paladin. We encountered a Chimera in a hallway. While we were pitched in a battle the Bucket Paladin turned around and ran away. Which made him get a harsh heckling from us from running from a battle. In the next room we encountered a Greater Barghest who had just cast Mass Bull Strength on a group of fighters. The Paladin decided it would be a good plan to charge at the Greater Barghest taking multiple attacks of opportunity from the fighters. Which pretty much was the end of the Bucket Paladin when the Greater Barghest decided to attack. So, sadly we had to lay the Bucket Paladin in a shallow grave. But he got a nice funeral from a Cleric of Pelor.

12-29-2008, 07:59 PM
And the rest of us shall mourn the bucket paladin. He is but the latest PC to perish for the noblest of causes -- to prove to everyone that you're not a freakin' pansy, despite what you did in the last encounter.

12-29-2008, 10:12 PM
Alas, the Poor Bucket Paladin.

He earned his moniker early in life - and then was carried from his last battle in one.

Multiple AoO's?? Doooode!

12-29-2008, 10:54 PM
Alas boor Bucket, we hardly knew ya.

12-30-2008, 12:03 AM
LOL That's awesome! A pack-rat Dwarf is a cool, quirky character to have in the party- it adds something of comic relief.

That brings to mind an old campaign I once ran. To this day I'm unsure whether the player or the character was obsessive-compulsive, but this player became obsessed with having his character stop to eat every so often. Not that eating is a bad thing, but the particular setting was a two week journey through a forest escorting a caravan. As the DM, I had specified that the caravan was well equipped, and that there would be regular stops for meals, rest, etc. Basically, I was trying to avoid having to roleplay the minutae of every second of the journey in the interest of keeping the game interesting. He wouldn't have any of it though- he just HAD to tell me that his character was "eating a ration", or "chewing on an apple" or something like that. At one point I even considered killing his character by using a random act of the gods... just to end the suffering! LOL

12-30-2008, 12:19 PM
I salute the Bucket Paladin for charging into battle against such a group of foes. Hopefully the rest of the party was able to use his selfless act to their advantage and deal the opposing force a mighty defeat.

12-30-2008, 12:38 PM
The bucket paladin shall be missed and a proper memorial is to be given in my next session.

12-31-2008, 12:17 AM
It's "stupid" characters like this that keeps me playing this game. I love them all!!

12-31-2008, 10:37 AM
I too give honors to the bucket paladin. We just lost a Paladin in our game that was the most cowardly character I've ever seen. It is nice to see a man in full plate charge into the fray.

01-04-2009, 07:40 AM
I've got a 9 yr old nephue... and of course I am the "evil uncle" who introduced him to Halo, Xbox-360, Zombie movies, rock band (I got him drum lessons for xmas) and comic books. I want to introduce the kid to RPG gaming as well...

I think it would be loads of fun to have him gather his young friends around a table and introduce all of them to gaming but...

1) I think the parrents would think its way strange in a pedo kind of way
2) I wouldent want to subject my weekly gamers to a 9 yr old and
3) wouldent want to subject the 9 yr old to my weekly game (can be fairly adult at times regardless of the fact the kid has played "mature" rated video games... RPG sex and violence hits harder than video game stuff IMHO)
4) the kid is a natural born jock and I'm afraid if I offer the gaming he will give up the after school sports in leu of running over to the friends house for D&D. (just like he did with Halo origionally)

any suggestions? Right now I'm thinking I'll wait till he's older but, if things keep going the way I think they will; video games, comics, playing drums and RPG's will very soon be a thing of the past for him (kid is the son of a 6'6 400lb guy who broke the UCLA bench press record, the boy is about 8 inc taller than any kid in the grade above him and is the star of every sports team he plays on.)

01-04-2009, 07:47 AM
Zig, what I would do is ask him if he wants to try it. Then, if he does, sit him down, with a parent present if they wish, and play a one-shot, one-player campaign, a simple one. If he enjoys it, tell him that RPing is better with a few friends. He will likely find friends to play on his own. Again, if the parents take issue, they can observe, or at least meet you prior to the session.

07-16-2009, 02:43 PM
I was a member in this party with the bucket paladin. Though we were amused by this child's thought process. It was quite annoying. Especially later on in the quest. Thankfully its finished with success. Not an easy quest by any means, but fun to try.

07-17-2009, 12:30 AM
Zombie thread!!!

07-24-2009, 06:56 PM
Mourn the bucket Paladin, and tell us if he comes back and if his new character is at all interesting.


Thought that was a frying pan?

You know, I actually had a Cleric/Monk of Illmater that had Weapon Focus: Frying Pan. He ran around with a cast iron frying pan on a string....between the fact that it was technicaly cold iron, I had Monk levels, and the Feat Vow Of Poverty he really kicked backside.

07-24-2009, 07:05 PM
Ah Bucket Paladin, you will be missed. RIP.