The Decription of this Forum should be Updated

[DeathByDM]

The decription of this forum (see above) reads:

Dungeons & Dragons Arguably the most popular role playing game ever to exist. This forum is for the discussion of topics particular to Dungeons and Dragons in its many incarnations throughout the past from the original red box set to the current 3.5 edition.

4th edition is more current...

[ignimbrite]

finally, I was just thinking about that last night

[Farcaster]

So noted and fixed.

[DeathByDM]

That was fast :)

[wbrandel]

what else did you expect form a quasi-deity. ask and ye shall recieve (if the quasi deity is in a good mood)

[Arch Lich Thoth-Amon]

One can never know the will of the Gods.

Thoth-Amon

[Webhead]

One can never know the will of the Gods.

Thoth-Amon

I'm pretty sure he's leaving everything to his wife and kids... :drum:

Man...I am on a roll! :rofl:

"Flog was out of his league--this game wasn't up his alley, but the team couldn't spare him if he split."

[tesral]

It was white it was, not red.

[nijineko]

it's not thursday yet!

[cplmac]

it's not thursday yet!


Now it is.

[gdmcbride]

It was white it was, not red.

The first D&D box was actually brown (sort of a faux woodgrain). It had a white sticker on it.

You can see it here: http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/setpages/original.html

Gary

[MuslixtheMighty]

Farcaster saves, everyone else takes full damage!

[Farcaster]

It was white it was, not red.


The first D&D box was actually brown


Notice that the description reads "iconic red box," not "first".

[cplmac]

Notice that the description reads "iconic red box," not "first".


Farcaster saves, everyone else takes full damage!


Actually, I was waiting to see who would be the first person to point out that the description does not state that the red box was the first. Once again, Farcaster saves. Although, does a quasi-diety even need to make a saving throw, in my game, definately not.

[Farcaster]

LOL! :lol: I'm not a full deity yet though, so I don't have any Divine Ranks. So, I think technically that means I still have to roll ;)

[rabkala]

The woodgrain and white box still had the tag "Wargame" not RPG. That is an important distinction to many. They were transitory peices between chainmail wargames and Role playing games.

P.s. why not change the tag to 4.5 edition right away, which is due 2010.

[tesral]

The woodgrain and white box still had the tag "Wargame" not RPG. That is an important distinction to many. They were transitory peices between chainmail wargames and Role playing games.

That is does. the term "role-playing" in any form does not appear in the old 0e books.

[ignimbrite]

P.s. why not change the tag to 4.5 edition right away, which is due 2010.

:eek: Are you being serious!???? Or are you just having a well deserved dig at WotC?

[rabkala]

Just a rumor I heard on WoTC boards... something to do with the whole virtual gaming experience and such. Probably just a random rumor, but you never know.

[Engar]

:pound:

[gdmcbride]

Notice that the description reads "iconic red box," not "first".

*cracks knuckles*

Look if your going to split hairs, the red box didn't come first. Indeed, the first version of BASIC D&D (never mind OD&D) wasn't even red. It was blue. Don't believe me?

Read it and weep. (http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/setpages/basic.html)

And by the way, that blue set had 'Fantasy Role-playing Game' on the cover.

And the box that followed it...it wasn't red either! The box was magenta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magenta). The BOOK was red.

You have to get to the 13th printing of Basic D&D in the flipping eighties to get to a red box. And that red box ... by 1991, they had ditched it for a black box. Of twenty identifiable print runs (including the rule book only anniversary edition) of basic D&D only three had red boxes and those came out almost ten years after D&D had first been published. Of Basic D&D's twenty two year publishing history (1977-1999) only for less than eight of them did it involve a red box.

Iconic red box indeed. Your pedantry is weak, old man. :)

Gary 'Get Off My Lawn' McBride

[MuslixtheMighty]

Speaking of old editions, :cool:
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/Muslixthemighty/0914081235.jpg

I was at a hobby shop with my brother while he was looking for tools to help him make his Space Marines army and I saw on a small rack with a hog-pog collection of rpgs, this brilliant blue book and I knew it had to be saved from it current imprisionment.

[tesral]

Speaking of old editions,
I was at a hobby shop with my brother while he was looking for tools to help him make his Space Marines army and I saw on a small rack with a hog-pog collection of rpgs, this brilliant blue book and I knew it had to be saved from it current imprisionment.

That is the one branch of the game I never got into. OK, that and Skills and Powers. I have quite a few of the D&D Gazetters, but none of the Core rules for the Basic D&D Edition.

Yes, by the Basic Edition the term role-playing was in the rules. AD&D also used (pontificated) the point as well.

[nijineko]

i have a white box version that i inherited from my father.

[Inquisitor Tremayne]

Since we are all polishing our laurels, I'll brag a bit too, I have:

The 2nd printing of the Basic Rulebook also

As well as these classics:

Ravenloft Campaign Setting Boxed Set 1108

Dragonlance Campaign Setting Boxed Set 1074

The Ruins of Myth Drannor Boxed Set 1084

Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting Boxed Set 1085

Forgotten Realms Adventures 2106.

Legends and Lore 2013.

And now for what I consider the jewel of my collection!!!!

The Temple of Elemental Evil 9147 from 1987.

[Webhead]

When I think of D&D iconography, this is the first image that comes to mind:

http://home.flash.net/~brenfrow/dd/dd-bbox.jpg

A lot of folks can trace the origins of their D&D (and role playing) experience to this box. It is a rather robust, cherry red color in person. It is certainly iconic, if only one of a sea of versions and printings that have been distributed over D&D's lengthy publication history.

[tesral]

Since we are all polishing our laurels, I'll brag a bit too, I have:


Don't make me go digging through this house.

Frankly I should. An accurate inventory of what I do have would be a good thing. I know my 2e DMG has wandered off somewhere.

[nijineko]

go tesral! lay down some grognard-got-game smack!

(i stop short of silly outfits and pompoms, however.) ^^

[Arch Lich Thoth-Amon]

I got all the old stuff exept some old '70's module about a female vampire. Dont remember the name but saw it sell on Ebay for over $700 bucks. I heard it wasnt that good but oh was i tempted to pick it up and complete my collection, but alas, that was too much for, even as a collector, to pay. );

Thoth-Amon

[gdmcbride]

I got all the old stuff exept some old '70's module about a female vampire. Dont remember the name but saw it sell on Ebay for over $700 bucks. I heard it wasnt that good but oh was i tempted to pick it up and complete my collection, but alas, that was too much for, even as a collector, to pay. );

Thoth-Amon

Palace of the Vampire Queen published by Wee Warriors. By the way, not the only adventure they published.

This was the first stand alone D&D adventure. And it is extraordinarily rare.

Gary

[Arch Lich Thoth-Amon]

Palace of the Vampire Queen published by Wee Warriors. By the way, not the only adventure they published.

This was the first stand alone D&D adventure. And it is extraordinarily rare.

Gary
I probably would have thrown out the cash for i was on the fence with indecision. What prompted me to let it be torn from my grasp? Get this, i read it wasnt that good of a module, actually it wasnt good at all. ...I'm speaking of game-fun, not module quality.

Yep, i was really teetering on the fence and that's all it took for me to decide against. I still think about it sometimes.

Here it is going for $2000. http://www.trollandtoad.com/p133281.html?PHPSESSID=a3d1ffe8a53bcf5b0a11318b00f 0cbe2

Thoth-Amon

[gdmcbride]

I probably would have thrown out the cash for i was on the fence with indecision. What prompted me to let it be torn from my grasp? Get this, i read it wasnt that good of a module, actually it wasnt good at all. ...I'm speaking of game-fun, not module quality.

Yep, i was really teetering on the fence and that's all it took for me to decide against. I still think about it sometimes.

Here it is going for $2000. http://www.trollandtoad.com/p133281.html?PHPSESSID=a3d1ffe8a53bcf5b0a11318b00f 0cbe2

Thoth-Amon

$2000 is a crazy price for that. Market value is more like $1200. :) That's how much it sold for auction at Gencon this year anyway.

In the world of D&D rarities (a crazy place to be sure) amounts like this is not all that uncommon of a price to pay. The acaeum (http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/rares.html) keeps a pretty solid inventory of the D&D rarities.

You don't buy these items because they are any good. The orange cover version of the 'Palace of the Silver Princess' (which a NM version is worth an estimated $800) is by any estimation inferior to the much easier to fine green version. The green version is a fix to a very flawed and broken adventure. You own the orange because by owning it, you are a part of D&D history.

Myself, I own exactly zero of these items. I am much more a gamer than I am a collector.

Gary

[tesral]

Myself, I own exactly zero of these items. I am much more a gamer than I am a collector.

Gary

Exactly, I never buy to collect. The only "rarities" I have are those bought off the shelf as new.

[Arch Lich Thoth-Amon]

$2000 is a crazy price for that. Market value is more like $1200. :) That's how much it sold for auction at Gencon this year anyway.

In the world of D&D rarities (a crazy place to be sure) amounts like this is not all that uncommon of a price to pay. The acaeum (http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/rares.html) keeps a pretty solid inventory of the D&D rarities.

You don't buy these items because they are any good. The orange cover version of the 'Palace of the Silver Princess' (which a NM version is worth an estimated $800) is by any estimation inferior to the much easier to fine green version. The green version is a fix to a very flawed and broken adventure. You own the orange because by owning it, you are a part of D&D history.

Myself, I own exactly zero of these items. I am much more a gamer than I am a collector.

Gary
I never really was a collector. I just happen to have alot of the good stuff only because i was around playing DnD back then. This would include all the Dragons etc.

If i ever come into more money than i know what to do with, then i just may make it my mission to collect. I'm also more of a gamer than a player.

Do i collect anything? Yes. I have everything Gamma World(old stuff), and everything WFRP, both editions, except WARPSTONE 1,2, & 4.

DnD? Heck, that game has put out sooo many items on the market, it could take years... and $1000's to collect everything.

Thoth-Amon

[boulet]

I'm also more of a gamer than a player.
Duh ? What do you mean ?

[nijineko]

serious hard core gamer-man vs wimpy now-and-again player, perhaps?

[Arch Lich Thoth-Amon]

Duh ? What do you mean ?
I guess i was being cryptic again. LOL

Thought about fixing my error but then no one would know what you were talking about, so i left it as is.

Thoth-Amon

[boulet]

cryptic you still are * Yoda accent *