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Apocryphal Bushi
Tuesday 07-01-2008, 11:50 AM
I picked up Operation Damocles...the starter set for AT-43 from Rakham Games (NA distrib Fantasy Flight Games). I personally like the game quite a bit. The rules play just about like any other miniature game, and the pre-painted mini's are actually fairly decent quality. I was just wondering what other people though, if they've played it, picked up any mini's or know about other (maybe better/cheaper) pre-painted mini games.
* just a quick disclaimer...I know there is a whole different hobby to painting your own miniatures...those who like to paint will ALWAYS rag on pre-painted minis...fair enough but I don't have the patience to sit down and paint everything, most times I just want to play!
Mead
Tuesday 07-01-2008, 12:32 PM
I like to paint, and the only real fault I see with pre-painted minis is the sales options - blind random packaging, or secondhand with grossly inflated "shipping & handling" charges.
Sure, if I was to start a new character I'd try to find a resembling metal mini and paint it before looking at DDM or Reaper, but there's some decent "preps" out there too.
mrken
Tuesday 07-01-2008, 02:15 PM
* just a quick disclaimer...I know there is a whole different hobby to painting your own miniatures...those who like to paint will ALWAYS rag on pre-painted minis...fair enough but I don't have the patience to sit down and paint everything, most times I just want to play!
:) I paint minis and I don't always rag on pre-painted minis. In fact I would like to get ahold of those DnD minis at my LFGS that they sell for .25 apiece.
My son has a pretty extensive collection of DnD minis and I sometimes sneak one or a few of them to supplement my game some. I know sometimes the paint job is incredibly bad, but sometimes not. That is part of the reason I don't buy them sealed in a box, never know what you are going to get and how well they are painted.
tesral
Tuesday 07-01-2008, 11:52 PM
No, nio, no I don't need another game.
Yea the minis are sooo nice the rules sooo simple.
I'm hopeless. Must get back to painting the ogres.
Apocryphal Bushi
Wednesday 07-02-2008, 10:31 AM
I like to paint, and the only real fault I see with pre-painted minis is the sales options - blind random packaging.
The nice thing about AT-43 is that the units are sold in the same kind of packaging as Warhammer, so it's about army building rather than blind luck.
I personally want to build a Red Army force, but there is a shortage of interest in my area so I feel like I have to build 2 armies at once so I can lend my opponent an army!
Mead
Wednesday 07-02-2008, 12:46 PM
The nice thing about AT-43 is that the units are sold in the same kind of packaging as Warhammer, so it's about army building rather than blind luck.
I personally want to build a Red Army force, but there is a shortage of interest in my area so I feel like I have to build 2 armies at once so I can lend my opponent an army!
I was thinking along the lines of fantasy minis, but yeah, that's a superior way to sell product.
I bought a case of Mage Knight once, and was rather disappointed with the outcome. And I've only ever bought 5 boosters of DDM because of that... got hosed with dupes on the last buy - 5 sets of dupes with one triplet, out of two packs of the latest DDM set, screw that bullcheese.
On the bright side, I do have an old Beholder lurking somewhere, just gotta find it.
Apocryphal Bushi
Wednesday 07-02-2008, 01:05 PM
I was thinking along the lines of fantasy minis
Rackham produces a fantasy line in the same style of unit/hero buying....it's called.....Confrontation? I think
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/confrontation/products/?faction=41
tesral
Wednesday 07-02-2008, 03:39 PM
I was thinking along the lines of fantasy minis, but yeah, that's a superior way to sell product.
I bought a case of Mage Knight once, and was rather disappointed with the outcome. And I've only ever bought 5 boosters of DDM because of that... got hosed with dupes on the last buy - 5 sets of dupes with one triplet, out of two packs of the latest DDM set, screw that bullcheese.
Since I'm not building a war band I see DDM dupes as a bonus. I can use more Orcs,. Goblins, etc..
I personally would pay a little more if it wasn't so random however. To do it like At-43.
Mead
Wednesday 07-02-2008, 04:30 PM
Since I'm not building a war band I see DDM dupes as a bonus. I can use more Orcs,. Goblins, etc..
I personally would pay a little more if it wasn't so random however. To do it like At-43.
Meh. They're useful, but as far as getting a nice random selection, it feels like a wash. Heck, it might even be within the statistical norm to get that many dupes from so few boxes, I don't know. Doesn't seem like it though.
Suppose I shouldn't complain. At least the dupes I got were trogs, goblins, iron defenders, centipedes, and bats.
I too would buy more of them if I could get a box of orcs, or a box of skeletons, or whatever else, and pay less than I would for metal. That would be nice.
Maelstrom
Sunday 07-06-2008, 05:44 PM
Heck, it might even be within the statistical norm to get that many dupes from so few boxes, I don't know.
All based on the rarity of the minis. The symbol next to the mini-number gives you that info. Per box you get 1 rare (star), 4 uncommon (diamond), and 3 common (circle) I believe.
D&D Minis can be expensive if you're buying em all alone, but if you have a friend or more to trade with it can be quite effective, you trade them the faction(s) you don't want for the faction(s) they don't want.
The D&D RPG value is incredibly nice too.
Mead
Monday 07-07-2008, 12:20 PM
All based on the rarity of the minis. The symbol next to the mini-number gives you that info. Per box you get 1 rare (star), 4 uncommon (diamond), and 3 common (circle) I believe.
Correct, but that's not what I'm talking about.
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