OOC Clarifications

[Roderz]

If you've got a question out of character, ask it here.

How would you guys like the Dice rolling to be done/shown?

I've noticed the Roll Tag, but not sure how it works, I might try it out here, 4D4 = 4d4.

[Roderz]

Hmmm, apparently it might not work in the first post, so I'll try again.

I might try it out here, D20 = Roderz takes a Skill Check.

[Roderz]

Doesn't seem to work.

[GBVenkman]

http://www.penandpapergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5939

edit:
when it asked for the [roll] type in your die and any modifiers like 1d20+3 or 2d8+3.

In the middle of the brackets [roll]type the emote[roll].

Works pretty well.

btw: i need to read up on the time period. I don't read any of the novels or comics really, so I may be a day or two until I know much.

For now, I'd say I'm your typical devout Padawan who may be a bit too idealistic and too into meditation exercises. Ogami pays more than average attention to jedi philosophy.

[GBVenkman]

Attacks Fly


Assuming I hit:

Light saber damage

[Roderz]

Once more and I'm done

[Roderz]

Skill Check

[Roderz]

Hmm...

And Again

[russdm]

Skill Check

This was a test.

[Inquisitor Tremayne]

attacks with heavy blaster pistol

Just testing.

[Inquisitor Tremayne]

man thats cool!

[GBVenkman]

Just pm'd the description.

One more question: where are you in the dark side point giving spectrum?

[Roderz]

It's given one once before in another game. The Jedi character argued strongly for leaving slaves captive while they scoped the area while all other characters argued for releasing and escorting them out. I, and they (including the Jedi) decided this warranted a Dark Side point, even though no Power was used, as it was against the code.

Since listening to Order 66 and Rodney's interpretation though, I have a stronger view on them. Any character who uses their powers/abilities etc to make a quick, easy, personal gain, to the detriment of innocents MAY get a point.

For example, as a Jedi, if you need a particular spare part, and the owner wants you to find his daughter in exchange, and you instead Mind Trick him, DSP right there. If as a Scoundrel, you con a few people passing by out of a few credits with a little card game, no DSP, it's in character, but, if the 'mark' was obviously poor, with several hungry children and she tried to make what she thought was easy money but instead gets conned by the scoundrel, DSP. In the poverty example though, I would always explain beforehand.

That give you an idea? It's subjective, but in the case of Jedi, Force power use for personal gain will make me evaluate the situation.

[GBVenkman]

Thoughts on force slam? Area of effect that slams everything in an arc on its ground for considerable damage. Useful in combat, for the personal gain of living through a battle.

Would I get a DSP for using it? I've had players use it and it has caused some deaths due to its power. Is a Jedi allowed to use his powers is then heat of combat?

[kujester]

My turn for a quick test...

Rolling damage on a blaster

[Roderz]

Thoughts on force slam? Area of effect that slams everything in an arc on its ground for considerable damage. Useful in combat, for the personal gain of living through a battle.

Would I get a DSP for using it? I've had players use it and it has caused some deaths due to its power. Is a Jedi allowed to use his powers is then heat of combat?

Heat of Combat is much more free, your life, potentially those of your fellows or even innocent bystanders may get injured, so you can easily argue that it's not for personal gain. Saving your own life is not personal gain in my opinion, you're merely trying to maintain your current situation of living.

However, initiating combat using Force Slam could be different depending on the situation.

I'll usually err on the side of no DSP, but you should be aware that I will award them if you go over the top.

[GBVenkman]

sounds fair, thanks!

Ogami is not a malicoius person at all. I'm modeling him after a Zen Master with a light saber.

I'd think sneak attacking a person with the force would be dishonorable to do too. And if it really really needed to be done, then I'd do it and immediately reflect on it to atone (ie spend the force point to git rid of it.)

g'night, got work and school.

[dndmaster]

I should have my Jedi ready tonight with history and all. I havemost done but have to get to work...

[GBVenkman]

I should have my Jedi ready tonight with history and all. I havemost done but have to get to work...

cool, so we'll have 3 Jedi total, right? I'm all for it :D but is the GM okay with it?

[dndmaster]

CHanged mine to scout.

[GBVenkman]

Has our location been established? Seems we Jedi are in hiding. Hiding solo or paired is the question.

[Roderz]

It has, but I haven't told you yet. Should be up in about... let's say 8 hours from now.

I need the last couple of PM'ed histories though.

[Roderz]

So, if I need you guys to all roll for something, such as Perception, should I make the rolls for you? I think it would be best, seems silly to wait on everyone to have to post, just to make Perception Checks.

[russdm]

If you want to roll perception thats fine with me. You will just have to use the right numbers for people.

[dndmaster]

I agree roll them.

[kujester]

Yeop, I also have no issue with you rolling on things you know that we'd do anyway. :)

[GBVenkman]

go for it. I would use the force too to aid in my perception checks though (sense surroundings). That's kind of a conscious action, so I'm not sure how that would work.

[Roderz]

I seem to have a lot of trouble with the Dice Roller.

The format, should be (roll=1d20+2)Text(/roll)?

Or is it supposed to be (roll="1d20+2")Text(/roll)?

Or some other thing? Getting really frustrating.

[dndmaster]

it should be text

[Roderz]

Neither one seems to be working for me in the adv thread

[Roderz]

Attack
Damage

[Roderz]

Does anyone have any suggestions for alternatives to the Dice Roller? I'm finding it too buggy.

[GBVenkman]

Neither one seems to be working for me in the adv thread

Are you clicking the roll icon on the tool bar of the reply or are you cut and pasting what people are posting?

yay

Just click the red die, enter 1d20 etc, then click in between the brackets for the emote.
{ROLL="2d10+4}{/ROLL} this is what it looks like after clicking and entering the rool..

then I enter text like so: {ROLL="2d10+4}yay{/ROLL} (with [] instead).

[kujester]

After a bit of fiddling, and much of the same problems... I had some luck with editing the post and checking the "reroll dice" box that is just below the title field. After I did that for an entry, the dice roller history showed properly and rolled the dice like it should have. May be a quick fix when something goes wrong so that we (erm.... I ;)) don't make a mess of the threads. Go figure.

[GBVenkman]

ooc still waiting for toren to post I take it?

[Roderz]

OOC Mostly. I'll take another look at what we have and try to move on tonight, I'll say about... 5 hours... roughly.

Thanks to everyone for posting their next actions though. I will say though, if you read something that makes you want to change them, feel free to go back and edit, as long as you see that I'm not browsing and I haven't already used your actions.

[GBVenkman]

I hope you don't mind me posting in the IC section out of turn. I might not be able to post today later, so I thought I'd throw in my general action.

Also, whose been hit and who hasn't? I noticed that Jayne has been firing at a gran, Ipsam at a human (who is dropped) and Tolin hit the attacking gran and stunned him a bit.

If tolin wants to finish the lead gran, I'll attack the 2nd gran then; if not, I attack the lead.

edit: One more thing: can everybody post their character name when describing their actions? It can get a bit confusing when trying to follow the action!

[kujester]

Being new to the system of Play by Post, I was posting in first person. I'll switch it to third and you'll get "Ipsam" in the posts. :)

I think the only other damage dealt so far is to my character in that first round.

[GBVenkman]

Being new to the system of Play by Post, I was posting in first person. I'll switch it to third and you'll get "Ipsam" in the posts. :)

I think the only other damage dealt so far is to my character in that first round.

I don't mind talking in the first person, I guess maybe doing something like: "Ipsam: I walk around etc."

I just have a bad memory!

[Roderz]

I've been using an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of character locations etc, which works ok for this encounter (I think, you guys might feel different), but I think in future you guys will need to be able to see where your characters are?

Saga is my first RPG, and I think that in the past Movement/Range has been less subjective with other systems, even RCR?

I was thinking I could try to post jpgs, but I think that would chew up bandwidth or something.

Anyone have any suggestions?

[kujester]

I've been using an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of character locations etc, which works ok for this encounter (I think, you guys might feel different), but I think in future you guys will need to be able to see where your characters are?

Saga is my first RPG, and I think that in the past Movement/Range has been less subjective with other systems, even RCR?

I was thinking I could try to post jpgs, but I think that would chew up bandwidth or something.

Anyone have any suggestions?

The tracking positions deal seems tough - I usually take the OOC statements as being pretty helpful when you prod us for our turns. JPGs would work if you have the time, but I imagine that updating them frequently could get pretty old on your part.

My only thing that may help keep things in line a bit comes from my experience GMing and I am not sure how others would feel about this: I have all of the NPCs go on the same initiative, which cleans up how the rounds function. May help with some of the record keeping too, because there will be more of a snapshot of where all of the bad guys are at any given time for us all to use at once and you'd only have to update that once a round.

[GBVenkman]

The tracking positions deal seems tough - I usually take the OOC statements as being pretty helpful when you prod us for our turns. JPGs would work if you have the time, but I imagine that updating them frequently could get pretty old on your part.

My only thing that may help keep things in line a bit comes from my experience GMing and I am not sure how others would feel about this: I have all of the NPCs go on the same initiative, which cleans up how the rounds function. May help with some of the record keeping too, because there will be more of a snapshot of where all of the bad guys are at any given time for us all to use at once and you'd only have to update that once a round.

that sounds good. Would only really need to be updated once a round. if we were all given a copy each round, we could post our positions too. it would be cool if there were a built in simple grid on the forums.

[dndmaster]

I think I agree with these 2 it would help a lot to know where everyone was.

[Roderz]

Sorry for slow replies guys. End of Tax season here in Australia and I've been flat out at work.

[GBVenkman]

Sorry for slow replies guys. End of Tax season here in Australia and I've been flat out at work.

np, we all have to live in the real world :D

[kujester]

It happens. As a reminder, I had mentioned it to Roderz, but I will be away from most technology from May 19th-30th while vacationing. Wanted to make sure no one got annoyed when I disappear for a short time. :)

[dndmaster]

I myself will also be away from the 16th-21st (doing army things) and then again from the 23-27th(Disneyland fun)

[Roderz]

That's okay, hopefully by the end of the week, your absences can be easily explained.

I should have it there in a couple of days actually, allowing time for you guys to post anything you might want to.

[Roderz]

Ana and Ogami have met previously, and seen each other around the Temple but did not know each other well before being sent off Coruscant together.

[Roderz]

Wow. I just realised that the two characters who need to be MIA for a while just happen to be the two that were injured. I couldn't have asked for better. Originally I was going to have you both in "solitary", but instead I'll just have you away for treatment.

[kujester]

Fair enough - thanks for the update Roderz. Let me know if you need any particular information before I disappear for a bit, I would be happy to get it your direction.

[Roderz]

Even in my gaming group, I always seem to roll fantastic as a GM, but suck as a player.

As a GM, you don't want to go around critical hitting the players all the time, but I seem to have that kind of luck.

[kujester]

Even in my gaming group, I always seem to roll fantastic as a GM, but suck as a player.

As a GM, you don't want to go around critical hitting the players all the time, but I seem to have that kind of luck.

I have the same disease. I even have "Dice of TPKing" that I try not to use because they cause so much trouble. I don't have anything near that luck when I play.

[GBVenkman]

I have the same disease. I even have "Dice of TPKing" that I try not to use because they cause so much trouble. I don't have anything near that luck when I play.
Murphy's law!

[GBVenkman]

hey,

I haven't been on in a few days due to life, but I see nobody else has either!

Hope all are okay

[Roderz]

Apologies guys, been flat out.

Part of me is waiting for the other guys to finish they're absences, but I can advance a few things in the meantime. Will try to get something up in a few hours. Leaving work now.

[GBVenkman]

Apologies guys, been flat out.

Part of me is waiting for the other guys to finish they're absences, but I can advance a few things in the meantime. Will try to get something up in a few hours. Leaving work now.


no problem waiting here.

[dndmaster]

I am back and I see I am at the infirmary :)

[Toren Utgard]

*wonders whats going to happen next*

[kujester]

I have also returned. Ready to go when you are.

[kujester]

Roderz,

Building off the OOC discussion regarding the purchase of TOTG...

I was wondering what your opinion is on including/not-including materials as they are published. Obviously we have some time as leveling proceeds, but there are some feats and talents throughout both the Starships and Threats books that could be interesting. Do you just want to check with you on any concepts that would not be from the core book? I am not sure I have anything in mind at the moment, it's more of a "if it comes up" kind of question.

[Roderz]

Roderz,

Building off the OOC discussion regarding the purchase of TOTG...

I was wondering what your opinion is on including/not-including materials as they are published. Obviously we have some time as leveling proceeds, but there are some feats and talents throughout both the Starships and Threats books that could be interesting. Do you just want to check with you on any concepts that would not be from the core book? I am not sure I have anything in mind at the moment, it's more of a "if it comes up" kind of question.

I am so sorry I missed this, I thought I had already replied.

Anything published that I have is quite free for you all to use. I have all the Web Enhancements, SECR, Starships and Threats. All is fair game. I don't think its worth taking Starship Maneuvers for those considering it, but good Piloting may come in handy.

[Roderz]

I've read some of DnD 4E, and I really like the idea of Skill Challenges.

So expect to see them. I'll try to keep them in Character when I bring them in, but if you're ever unsure of anything just ask.

[kujester]

Thanks for the update on material we can use.

Skill Challenges? Unfortunately, I haven't had time to really delve into 4E - could you describe how they work so that I am prepared should they come up? Thanks.

[Roderz]

Okay, since I got back I've had posts from Inquisitor Tremayne, kujester, dndmaster and russdm.

GBVenkman and Toren Utgard are now officially MIA.

Since we're in the middle of an encounter, I'm going to control their actions until they return. If they do not return by the end of the encounter or a few weeks, I'll drop the characters, and possibly add a couple of new players.

In future, if anyone is going to be away for any period of time, let me know. That way I'll know when to expect you back and your character will be here waiting, even if it appears your character has been in a dream because you can't remember any of your actions for a while <--Plot device.

Anyhoo, on with the show.

[kujester]

Fair enough. Play on sir. ;)

[russdm]

At the end of this week, I will be going out of town. I don't know yet for how long. When I find out, I will let you know.

[Roderz]

No problems. If you're going to be gone a week or so, we'll wait. If it'll be longer, I'll post your actions. Let me know.

[russdm]

I will be gone August 9th to August 14th.

[dndmaster]

ooc: do we even have AC? If so how do we figure it out?

[kujester]

ooc: Saga edition does not use an Armor Class value. Instead, you are targeting the Reflect Defense of your opponent when making melee or ranged attacks. Armor in this system affects that stat as well (but again, not in the same was as 4th Ed)

[Inquisitor Tremayne]

Thanks for the update on material we can use.

Skill Challenges? Unfortunately, I haven't had time to really delve into 4E - could you describe how they work so that I am prepared should they come up? Thanks.

Skill challenges are non-combat encounters that require all characters in the party to make different successful skill checks that will affect the out come of the encounter.

The example commonly used is the encounter with the duke (or king or whatever) and each PC takes a turn trying to influence the duke in their special way. Like the fighter might try intimidation, the cleric diplomacy, the wizard can drop some knowledge on him etc.

Each skill challege requires a certain number of successful checks vs. Unsuccessful ones. The goal is usually to be in favor of the PCs.

That's the gist of it. I am curious to see how Russ uses it in SW.

[Roderz]

How's my GMing? Phone 1800 4 ICARE

Seriously though, how are you finding it? Criticisms? Compliments? Suggestions? Thoughts on how PbP is working out? Thoughts on my pacing?

[dndmaster]

I think that you are doing a good job with describing things and moving things along. I only have one suggestion for when combat happens, if you roll initiatives for us that could speed up that section.. not major thing though cause all these players seem to post regularly. I am learning a lot about this still and thx for having me.

[kujester]

I haven't had any major problems - partially also getting used to this format. It's helped to have the map (when possible) and initiative orders floating around in obvious locations.

There's always a part of me that wants to do things faster, but I imagine that's more of a function of the playing environment than your GMing. :)

[Inquisitor Tremayne]

I concur with everyone else, doing a fine job.

I also agree with rolling our initiatives for us or any other pertinent skill checks, this way it keeps us from slowing down the game.

Also, if possible, during combat, could someone keep marking on the map various people's locations? I know it is a lot of work, um, yeah nevermind. I'll just keep my own map.

Everything is fine so far!

[kujester]

I had the same gut reflex on the mapping, but didn't want any of us sucked into the duty of making that happen - way too annoying and time consuming to be worthwhile. :)

[Inquisitor Tremayne]

If I had a scanner I would do it.

Yes I AM that particular and anal! Part of being OCD and a DM/GM I guess!:rolleyes:

[kujester]

Oh, don't get me wrong - I am right with you - I just figured if I put the suggestion out that I would have to do it, and the nearest scanner that I have would require sneaking in to use it when someone leaves their desk... And that's just not a good way to do it.

It was either that or start Photoshopping, which I was really tempted to do. So yeah, I understand completely. OCD and GMing do not mix. My players here always cause me trouble by giving me odd numbered items and things without appropriate pattern just so that I freeze up and have to fix them.

[Roderz]

Okay, I can keep a running Initiative order, and post it up.

With the map, I think the top of every round is possible, I've got a graphics program for that, accounting for every move during a round is a bit much though. My hurdle is posting it, since I don't use a hosting site. I can email the file to kujester like I did the first time however.

[Inquisitor Tremayne]

Yeah, before I started using galaxy tiles or tiles of any kind we always had to take a "break" so that I could draw out the next map.

Yeah, that was painful!

Oh, and they were painfully detailed!

[kujester]

Technically, I am hosting our map through the Pen and Paper Games system. Under the Quick Links there is a "Pictures & Albums" link. I would be happy to continue uploading them though if you need me to.

[Inquisitor Tremayne]

Roderz, let me know when you pick up Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide.

There is lots of new equipment I would like to purchase for Tolin!!

[Inquisitor Tremayne]

Also, was that 2,000 credits we received each or to be divided among the group?

[Roderz]

It wasn't divided up at the time. Still hasn't been. Hoole will be having it delivered along with the invitations.

I picked up my copy of the KOTOR Campaign Guide today.

There are some pretty interesting items. What's caught your eye?

You haven't had a chance yet to take the time for shopping, but you should watch for it.

[Anodyzed]

Not sure if you all mind me posting here (yet), I've submitted a character to Roderz, hoping to join your game. Still working on the backstory though... that is the hardest part for me. I'm a LONG time RPGer, back to the DnDv1 days. Skipped ADnD v2, had to learn 3.5, then SW d20 with the RCR, and now SW Saga Edition. I have my own site for playbypost, so I'm quite familiar with the venue, and a very steady poster (I practically live on the computer).

If Roderz accepts my character, y'all will see me posting much more!

[kujester]

No issue on my part. Welcome to the team (obviously, as long as Roderz clears things :))