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Annshadow
04-11-2008, 09:28 AM
Hi. I would like to submit a rules question to the "ask wizards" forum.

Where do I do that?
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Here is the question I wish to submit.

Question.

Black Pudding and splitting in two

The Monster Manual says
Quote:

Split (Ex)

Slashing and piercing weapons deal no damage to a black pudding.
Instead the creature splits into two identical puddings, each with half
of the original’s current hit points (round down). A pudding with 10
hit points or less cannot be further split and dies if reduced to 0 hit
points. My question is:
Do the two new Black Puddings have the same size, hit dice,
bonuses to hit ect. or does a 20 hd black pudding become two 10 hd
black puddings half the size of the original.

Or will you eventually have, say, 20 Gargantuan black puddings each
with a 20 foot reach hitting at +19 for 3d6+12 damage and 3d6 acid
damage?

The description talks about Hit Points not Hit dice.

thank you for your time.

Kilrex
04-11-2008, 12:20 PM
My question is:
Do the two new Black Puddings have the same size, hit dice,
bonuses to hit ect. or does a 20 hd black pudding become two 10 hd
black puddings half the size of the original.

Or will you eventually have, say, 20 Gargantuan black puddings each
with a 20 foot reach hitting at +19 for 3d6+12 damage and 3d6 acid
damage?

As with most things I would be tempted to rule with the common sense idea of half size and HD. But to make things interesting, I would have to go w/ keeping size and HD. Gotta Kill 'Em All! (PCs that is)

Annshadow
04-11-2008, 12:25 PM
We pretty much went through every argument on both sides.

Looking for an official ruling.

In the DDOnline game, they split into ever smaller oozes. And they pretty much track the 3.5 rules.

tesral
04-12-2008, 01:16 AM
We pretty much went through every argument on both sides.

Looking for an official ruling.

In the DDOnline game, they split into ever smaller oozes. And they pretty much track the 3.5 rules.

Then you need to check the Lizards' board. We here folk are strickly unoffical, and proud of it.

Farcaster
04-12-2008, 01:48 PM
The Ask Wizards column that is posted here on this forum is brought in by a feed from Wizards of the Coast. Here is some information about how to submit a question to them: http://wizards.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wizards.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1303

Annshadow
04-14-2008, 07:57 AM
Thank you.

Annshadow
04-17-2008, 09:07 AM
Well, for the record, a person at wizards responded saying that the split Black Puddings would have 1/2 the original but retain all the Attack modifiers as the parent Black Pudding.

I read that to mean that you have Black Pudding Prime X1

X1 > x2 x2

x2 x3 x3
x2 x3 x4 x4 at x4 black pudding has approx 15 hp and can depending on intrep of rule split one more time to 10 hp

x2 x3 x4 x5 x5 at x5 the pudding has 7hp and can no longer split

So from a CR 7 monster you could be facing 20 20DH monsters each doing

10d10+60 (115 hp)
20 ft. (4 squares), climb 20 ft.
AC 3 (–2 size, –5 Dex), touch 3, flat-footed 3
To HIT / GRAPPLE +7/+18
ATTACK Slam +8 melee (2d6+4 plus 2d6 acid)
FULL ATTACK Slam +8 melee (2d6+4 plus 2d6 acid)
SIZE REACH 15 ft./10 ft.
Acid, constrict 2d6+4 plus 2d6 acid, improved grab
Blindsight 60 ft., split, ooze traits

Fort +9, Ref –2, Will –2

Str 17, Dex 1, Con 22, Int —, Wis 1, Cha 1


Correct me if I'm Wrong but does CR7 mean that a monster is supposed to be a challenge for a team of four 7th level characters?

Kilrex
04-17-2008, 02:46 PM
Remember not all of the damage will cause it to split. Unless your group has an odd fetish for swords.

tesral
04-17-2008, 08:07 PM
Remember not all of the damage will cause it to split. Unless your group has an odd fetish for swords.

And what band of stalwart adventurers doesn't?

Kilrex
04-18-2008, 08:38 AM
Personally I have an odd hankering to use big smashy weapons.

tesral
04-18-2008, 08:53 AM
Personally I have an odd hankering to use big smashy weapons.

Obviously a Mason.

Malruhn
04-19-2008, 06:15 PM
Hey, don't go all 'conspiracy theory' on us here! Some of us have Traveled enough of the world to have seen a thing or two. There's nothing wrong with having big, smashy things!!