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01-24-2008, 03:38 PM
<table><tr><td valign="top"></td><td>Player's Handbook - Deluxe Edition: A 4th Edition Core Rulebook (D&D Core Rulebook) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0786950439%26tag=penandpaperg a-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26locatio n=/o/ASIN/0786950439%253FSubscriptionId=09CQH6MK86KXT0YR73G2 ) [Wizards of the Coast]
by Wizards RPG Team
Release Date: 2008-10-21
Amazon Price: <strike>$74.95</strike> $47.22 as of 03/07/2008 09:41:30 AM PST
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Riftwalker
01-24-2008, 04:11 PM
The price was originally $74.95?

What's the difference between the deluxe edition and the normal one?

Why does this come out in October of 2008 instead of summer?

Answers! I demand answers!

Farcaster
01-24-2008, 04:18 PM
It doesn't look like they have put up any product information on their webpage about this yet, but in the past these special editions have been leatherbound with "gilt-edged paper." I suspect it would be very similar to the 3.5 Special Edition Players Handbook (http://www.amazon.com/Special-Handbook-Rulebook-Dungeons-Roleplaying/dp/0786934328/ref=pd_bbs_sr_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201212997&sr=8-7).

rabkala
01-24-2008, 07:35 PM
I am sure it is worth at least $99.99. 4e rules rock that hard!

Digital Arcanist
01-24-2008, 08:02 PM
Did you guys happen to see the first adventure on the Amazon page? I think I will pick it up as well to run while evaluating the new edition.

Mulsiphix
01-24-2008, 09:15 PM
Most deluxe editions, where pen and paper games are concerned, are usually just fancy smanshy in the way they were made. Special binding, leather bound, foil trim, built in bookmarks, signed by authors, etc... Usually the content itself hasn't changed at all. The only other common type of Deluxe Edition is when multiple books are merged into a single product. Again nothing changed or updated, except possibly errata changes have been made.

gdmcbride
01-24-2008, 11:52 PM
If it's like the special editions for 3.5 I wouldn't expect any errata. I would expect better binding, bookmarks, and black and silver engraved leatherette covers.

Gary

ffclubhero
01-27-2008, 07:43 PM
Is there a large market for the Special Editions? Just curious.

Mulsiphix
01-27-2008, 07:48 PM
I have no idea where a person could find actual statistics for sales but I assume that special editions are printed in reserved numbers and every last one is sold 95% of the time. Never underestimate the power of the uber niche following, regardless of product or demographic, that is the fanboy/girls :D

ffclubhero
01-28-2008, 07:08 AM
"Uber niche." I like it! Very true, as well, thank you.

tesral
01-28-2008, 08:42 AM
How can you review a product that isn't even out yet?

Frankly I have seen very little review in these reviews.

Mulsiphix
01-28-2008, 09:55 AM
Check the forum description: "Threads for discussing new product releases are automatically created here whenever a product is added to the calendar." Although I think that this would do better in the News section. Kinda hard to review something that won't be out for 10 months :eek:. I wish these product postings would appear when the product actually has hit the streets.

underdarkshark
01-28-2008, 11:30 AM
For that price it better come with a real pet dragon

Mulsiphix
01-28-2008, 02:16 PM
For that price it better come with a real pet dragon$47.22 is pretty darn cheap for a limited edition :rolleyes:

tesral
01-28-2008, 11:14 PM
$47.22 is pretty darn cheap for a limited edition :rolleyes:

At that price even if I wanted it it would be limited indeed. Limited from every seeing my shelf unless it looks like Hero 5th Revised. (Which I got for 25 bucks.)

EDIT: And that is the Amazon price. Lizard list is 74 smackers. It better be BIGGER than Hero 5.

Skunkape
01-29-2008, 11:22 AM
About the only time I've purchase a 'deluxe' edition is when they've combined several books into 1 and I don't own those books, or I don't own the book in question and decide I want to spend the extra for the deluxe edition. I seldom purchase a deluxe if I already own the book in question. I just can't bring myself to spend money for the extra fanciness of the deluxe book.

I guess I'm just a cheapskate at heart!:D

No, no, I know, I'm frugal!;)

Mulsiphix
01-29-2008, 12:25 PM
I purchased some limited edition BattleTech books at some pretty steep prices but they were out of print for quite a few years. For each book though I didn't own the original and could choose between the limited or regular. I don't think I'd wait longer, as is the case for this book, for a limited edition if the regular edition is available earlier. I also don't think I'd spend more on a limited edition unless it had some extra content that I really wanted.

cplmac
01-31-2008, 06:06 PM
I just can't bring myself to spend money for the extra fanciness of the deluxe book.

I guess I'm just a cheapskate at heart!:D

No, no, I know, I'm frugal!;)


Same here. For the amount of new books that will have to be purchased, I think that I will stick with the standard version of each book. Is there a list of when the new 4E books will be available in bookstores. Sometimes you can get a little bit better price if you belong to a frequent buyers club at some of the larger bookstores.

Mulsiphix
02-01-2008, 12:53 AM
All I've heard so far is that the PHB will come out in May, the DMG in June, and the MM in July.

nijineko
02-01-2008, 08:18 AM
i tend to go to a bindery and have the covers custom made. that way i control content and design, plus the awesomeness of having an actual place-it-on-a-pedestal-snarfin-huge-TOME to show off is great. tad pricey, though. but cheaper than buying deluxe limited editions of all the books i already have. besides, carrying a 40-50lb book is serious exercise. benefits all around!

Maelstrom
02-07-2008, 05:53 AM
All I've heard so far is that the PHB will come out in May, the DMG in June, and the MM in July.

That was an early plan... now they're all coming out in June. People revolted at the thought of staggering them.

tesral
02-07-2008, 02:39 PM
That was an early plan... now they're all coming out in June. People revolted at the thought of staggering them.

It has never made anyone happy in the past. You need three books to play the game, we'll dribble them out to you a little bit at a time.

Glory be, they can learn.

cplmac
02-07-2008, 04:45 PM
It has never made anyone happy in the past. You need three books to play the game, we'll dribble them out to you a little bit at a time.

Glory be, they can learn.


I guess it just goes to show that you can teach an old dog a new trick.

Mulsiphix
02-08-2008, 07:32 PM
Very good to know they're all coming out at once. I was sad to hear they were coming out month after month like that. Supplements I can understand and applaud. Core rulebooks? That is just wrong :mad:

nijineko
02-09-2008, 11:10 AM
quite. if you are going to release a game, we want to be able to play it! not wait a few months for the rest of the books before we can play!