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LRPG
07-01-2007, 08:21 PM
Hope this is the best place to post this...

Does anyone have thoughts or opinions on the different versions of mapping software out there now?

I'm considering something for our club run campaigns and would like to hear from some actual owners. Particularly those who have tried more than one product and can offer a comparison.

I've seen some info on these and some other lesser known products...
Campaign Cartographer
Fractal Mapper
DungeonForge
Dundjinni


Thanks for any info anyone might have.

Iceberg
07-02-2007, 08:32 AM
Honestly, I'm still a fan of Gridsmith even though it hasn't been supported in a good long time. It's easy to make tile sets, though it's geared more towards interior mapping than cartography.

Farcaster
07-02-2007, 11:29 AM
This might seem odd, but I use the Neverwinter Nights I Aurora toolset to build maps. Its fairly easy to use, and there are a number of tilesets out there even beyond the ones that were officially produced by Bioware. Since I have a remote game, I just take screenshots of areas from a top down view in the toolset and then use those as the maps.

LRPG
07-02-2007, 05:01 PM
Hadn't thought of that. Good Idea.

Moritz
07-14-2007, 08:00 AM
I like this thing, it's easy to use and you can create huge outdoor or indoor maps (mostly outdoor)
HexMapper

http://home.paonline.com/zaikoski/ak/

oh and it's free

LRPG
07-15-2007, 12:22 PM
...oh and it's free


...for now it least. It looks like they're going shareware in the future.

That was a good link. Lots of good utilities there. Makes me wonder if there is a place to consolidate useful links like that here at P&PG.

Skunkape
07-19-2007, 07:30 AM
I really like Dundjinni and Campaign Cartographer 3. I know they aren't free and they aren't the easiest to use, but man they produce some really nice maps.

I mostly use Dundjinni for dungeons and some buildings, and Campaign Cartographer for overland maps and cities. I can't wait until Profantasy, the company that makes CC3 comes out with their updated city mapper!

Best thing I can say is check around and look at the different programs that are available and decide which one(s) you want to use.

Literalmn
07-19-2007, 10:09 AM
I've just started tinkering with Fractal Mapper. It seems to do both outdoors and indoors well. I was up and running almost instantly, but I think some of more advanced features are going to require some reading of help files and tutorials for me to master. I'm very impressed, but I wish I could learn it faster. Like I said I'm very impressed, and I think the steepness of the learning curve is due mostly to the sheer mass of features it has.


Hope this is the best place to post this...

Does anyone have thoughts or opinions on the different versions of mapping software out there now?

I'm considering something for our club run campaigns and would like to hear from some actual owners. Particularly those who have tried more than one product and can offer a comparison.

I've seen some info on these and some other lesser known products...
Campaign Cartographer
Fractal Mapper
DungeonForge
Dundjinni


Thanks for any info anyone might have.

Ed Zachary
07-19-2007, 12:17 PM
Do you know of a decent free software that's super easy to use?

Moritz
07-19-2007, 01:43 PM
That's what I listed a few lines up Ed, free and easy to use.

Ed Zachary
07-19-2007, 01:49 PM
That's what I listed a few lines up Ed, free and easy to use.

I guess you underestimated my request for "super easy".

How do I make a map from that... what link do I hit?

If it doesn't say [hit this button to make map], then I'm lost.

Moritz
07-19-2007, 02:07 PM
Oh, so sorry Ed.

1) Click on Link: http://home.paonline.com/zaikoski/ak/

2) Click on the red bold words RPGTools

3) Scroll down until you see http://home.paonline.com/zaikoski/ak/images/down-ani.gif (http://home.paonline.com/zaikoski/ak/AK_SOFT/Aks_hmap.zip)Download HexMapper 1.0b Program (http://home.paonline.com/zaikoski/ak/AK_SOFT/Aks_hmap.zip)* (oh hell, just click here - I didn't realize we could easy link like this)

4) Click on that.

5) Click the Save to disk option and then when it's done downloading open it.

6) File/New - Pick Grid Size - Drag and drop map icons onto the hex paper. And when you're done, save. Then when you get ready to print it, my best suggestion is to use Windows Paint. Mainly because it will print it full scale. The map I use is 4x4 pages in size, full color and stuck to posterboard.

LRPG
07-21-2007, 09:44 AM
I tried that hexmapper program out and it works pretty good. Very basic of course and the finished products aren't nearly as polished as Campaign Cartographer or Fractal Mapper but its FREE. hehe... I can over look a lot when dealing when free stuff :-)

Argent
07-22-2007, 01:41 PM
I still do the bulk of my mapping using Luddite 3.0 (ie, by hand). I get a lot of enjoyment out of drawing maps in pencil, then shading and inking things in afterwards. And if I need a map in a hurry, Dungeon magazine and/or the map archives on the WoTC/DnD site have never failed to please.

TK421
08-07-2007, 04:49 PM
I use Campaign Cartographer 2, the learning curve is pretty steep but once you master it...it certainly is very useful. One of these days I will upgrade to CC3.

John

Play games...have fun!

Skunkape
08-08-2007, 06:17 AM
I use Campaign Cartographer 2, the learning curve is pretty steep but once you master it...it certainly is very useful. One of these days I will upgrade to CC3.

John

Play games...have fun!

CC3 is a fantastic upgrade to CC2, you'll be glad when you finally do it. I'm still waiting till I get the funds to add in Dungeon Designer 3 and can't wait for them to release City Designer 3, which if I still don't have DD3, I'll be getting CD3 first.

Farcaster
08-08-2007, 02:45 PM
Can you show us some samples of maps you've created with CC, TK421 / Skunk?

Skunkape
08-08-2007, 02:54 PM
As a matter of fact, I can...

This map (http://www.johnprime.com/wizard_quest/world/index.php), was created with CC 2/Pro.

This map (http://www.johnprime.com/wizard_quest/world/country/map_page.php?mapName=galideeria_map.png&countryName=Galideeria), was created with CC 3.

Moritz
08-09-2007, 10:48 AM
They have a very unique quality to them. Nice lines and graphics.

Farcaster
08-09-2007, 11:34 PM
Yeah, the CC3 one is very nice. Does anyone have any images of dungeon maps made with CC?

TK421
08-10-2007, 08:30 AM
Trying to compare apples to apples, I found a map that I downloaded from the Pro Fantasy site prior to the CC3 switch over. Is it kosher to insert a bitmap image into a post...1.87 mb in size. Or is there a better way?

Moritz
08-10-2007, 11:09 AM
Convert it to jpeg.

TK421
08-11-2007, 02:54 AM
Well, here is a overland style map made with CC2...

I would say that about 50% of the detail has been "lost in translation".

But this gives you an idea...from my own comparisons I would have to say that CC3 is producing far superior maps.

Kelbin
08-11-2007, 08:02 AM
I am liking CC3 as well it is starting to get close to the quality of Photoshop and Paintshop pro

Jonas Boggs
08-17-2007, 05:01 PM
I bought Dundjinni and love it. To me it is very easy to use and with the added downloadable content as well as the free stuff users make and put up, it is pretty darn sweet.

I will check out some of the stuff listed here too.

InfoStorm
08-21-2007, 01:57 PM
I found a simple map making program at http://home.paonline.com/zaikoski/ak/TOOLS.HTM that does all I ever wanted in map making programs. It's free and simple to use.

(P.S. Farcaster, forgive me if I just posted it elsewhere, but it belonged here too). :D

Moritz
08-21-2007, 02:23 PM
Hey Info, go to page on, scroll about half way down, see my post. :)

InfoStorm
08-21-2007, 03:34 PM
Ok, ok, so I'm blind today. Wouldn't be a first.

James McKinney
09-14-2008, 06:27 PM
I recently posted this in another thread, but it seems to belong here too. My favorite map-making program is, hands down, AutoRealm (http://www.gryc.ws/autorealm.htm). It is 100% free, and is excellent in making over-world / city maps. They won't likely be as "pretty" as CC3, but for my weekly D&D game, they work just fine. :biggrin:

kirksmithicus
09-16-2008, 11:11 PM
Autorealm is good, but I still use MS paint for most things :D

nijineko
09-17-2008, 11:37 PM
i tend to use painter, fireworks, and a few other programs depending on what i'm doing and what effects i'm going for.