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J-Hazen
12-09-2010, 01:50 PM
Does anyone recall a miniature game in the early 90s that used resin cast sail driven boats? They were scaled for the 25mm crew and canons (which were metal cast). I've tried some web searches but haven't come across anything. I did find one site that had boats similar but the scale did not look right. Anyway, if someone could point me in a direction of something similar I would appriciate it.

Thanks

Skunkape
12-09-2010, 01:58 PM
Don't know the name myself but sounds interesting!

cplmac
12-09-2010, 05:37 PM
Can't guarantee that he'll know, but I will see if anyone from my tabletop group knows about this game.

tesral
12-13-2010, 01:08 AM
I remember some boats like that but not any game that used them. I though them more than a touch pricey. I remember the boats being cast foam resin, not the solid (and heavy) stuff.

J-Hazen
12-13-2010, 03:18 PM
I remember some boats like that but not any game that used them. I though them more than a touch pricey. I remember the boats being cast foam resin, not the solid (and heavy) stuff.

Likely we are speaking of the same thing, if I recall they were a bit pricy. As far as being made for a game, I always assumed they were as I saw them used with the same set of rules at multiple cons back then. However its possible they were just the conveinent model of the day. Someone (on another forum) had given me a link to something like them once, but that link has since died.

The ships did have removable decks, and I believe wooden masts. Id really like to find something like them, even if it is an oop that I can pull a pattern from.

tesral
12-14-2010, 08:16 AM
I'd love to help. I have seen wooden no glue flat pack models. No idea who makes them. I think there was a ship among the buildings. There are paper models; some truly nice ones too. Those are inexpensive to buy but time consuming to make. If you want they can be improved with other materials.

I scratch my own.

(Typing with cat in lap.)

mrken
12-14-2010, 09:34 PM
You might try World Works. http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=27

I am most fond of their stuff. It is made for the 25/32mm minis we all know and love. :) It is a piece I ahve wanted to buy, but my campaign is so far removed from any body of water remotely suited for a boat of this stature.

tesral
12-14-2010, 11:38 PM
That was the one I was thinking of. I couldn't remember the name.

Skunkape
12-15-2010, 07:09 AM
You might try World Works. http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=27

I am most fond of their stuff. It is made for the 25/32mm minis we all know and love. :) It is a piece I ahve wanted to buy, but my campaign is so far removed from any body of water remotely suited for a boat of this stature.

Ah go ahead and buy it! I did!:biggrin:

mrken
12-15-2010, 11:07 AM
Yeah, it's on sale. But I already bought like three of their sets in the past few weeks and have yet found time to even unzip any of them. :( But maybe after Christmas when money is not so tight. I still have kids that NEED presents. And not the inexpensive Barbie and Tonka stuff. NO, I need to by guitar amplifiers, and Iphones.

tesral
12-15-2010, 11:53 AM
ipod nano 150 bucks.

San disk Sansa mp3 player 35 bucks. 8 gig SDHC card 12 bucks.

Never dealing with Apple or I tunes - priceless.

mrken
12-15-2010, 03:09 PM
Yeah, for the last couple of years, I Tunes. I had no idea only an Apple product could play them. She has copied a couple of her dad's old mp3 and they work, but her Mp3's will not play on my player. I offered it to her and she laughed at me. She informed me that she needed an IPhone. Like the one she had stolen at school.

Skunkape
12-16-2010, 06:46 AM
Understand about the tight money situation very well mrken! Also understand about children who want very expensive presents!

mrken
12-16-2010, 08:26 AM
What I don't understand is proprietary systems like Apple. Why on earth would you make your stuff only playable only on your machines. No more money for Apple. I will now buy my music from sources who don't have their noses stuck up in the air. lol

tesral
12-16-2010, 10:58 AM
It's called customer lock in. Microsoft does it with Office and Windows. The only reason for the .docx format was to keep Open Office from opening the files. "Trial" versions of Messy Office only save in docx. So if you use the trial version you have to pay the fee to get your documents back. Mind you they don't tell you this up front. The first hit is always free.

:focus:

Has anyone found any other paper ships scaled for 25/28?

J-Hazen
12-16-2010, 11:11 AM
You might try World Works. http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=27

I am most fond of their stuff. It is made for the 25/32mm minis we all know and love. :) It is a piece I ahve wanted to buy, but my campaign is so far removed from any body of water remotely suited for a boat of this stature.

I like the model, I scratch build and cast terrain and models. If push comes to shove I can make a foam core version of this and maybe sculpt it out and cast my own, I have found some models I could use but the scale is off (as they are much smaller) so wouldn't be much different from using the paper models. Thanks for the link, eventually Ill make something work.

tesral
12-16-2010, 01:09 PM
A bit of checking Fat Dragon Games has a smaller ship (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=83876), a "cog"

This section (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=paper+ships&x=0&y=0&quicksearch=1&search_filter=&filters=&search_free=&search_in_description=1&search_in_author=1&search_in_artist=1) has some ship flats in it.

Both links are to Drive Thru RPG

Skunkape
12-17-2010, 05:26 AM
I've thought about buying the "cog" from Fat Dragon myself but haven't as yet.

I know one of the guys from Scrying Eye Games and have seen their maps in person, they're good looking.

mrken
12-17-2010, 08:30 AM
Those boats from Fat Dragon came to my mind too. In my game they could be useful for river or lake use. But if you are looking for a huge ship, and the Maiden is not big enough, yeah, I think you will be building it. I would love to see photos of it as it progresses. Maybe all of us here on P&PG would like to see it. Might be even more impressive that the stuff Gary builds from wood.

J-Hazen
12-18-2010, 09:08 AM
If I go the route of building (which is likely) I will post the pics. Im holding out till after the holidays before I start anything, and hoping that maybe somewhere one of my feelers that our out will yeild something, as time and space for building it hard to come by.

Thanks all for the suggestions etc so far. Ive used some of FatDragons products before, there is also an Aussie company that does essentiall the same thing only thier products are made from wood rather than paper (and I dont believe they have a ship atm) called http://www.miniaturescenery.com/index.asp

Again thanks all.

tesral
12-18-2010, 10:01 AM
That is the wood stuff I was talking about, thank you. No ship, so I was wrong on that one.

mrken
12-18-2010, 11:06 AM
Yeah, I do like the stuff they do have. Being able to take them apart is for some people pretty important.

As for the ship you seek. If you have a Dremel you could carve it out of balsa. You can get these huge blocks and just glue them together, carving out the hull. But you know the mess you will have. lol Just like my hill side I made with Styrofoam. Now I remember why I swore off Styrofoam. Little tiny beads EVERYWHERE!!! I filled up the trash can and the vacuum cleaner bag. lol Not to mention I had those little beads everywhere. ugh!

tesral
12-18-2010, 01:47 PM
Like This?


URLs for the rest of them.

http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com/SS_Modeler/tub2.jpg
http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com/SS_Modeler/tub3.jpg
http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com/SS_Modeler/tub4.jpg


http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com/SS_Modeler/tub1.jpg

mrken
12-18-2010, 02:07 PM
Yeah. :)

J-Hazen
12-19-2010, 04:25 PM
Nice work, an approx 60ft Keel too. Now if that came apart so I could access the hold it would be golden. Nice work

and I look at the other pics to see the cabins are accessable. Real nice work.

tesral
12-19-2010, 10:22 PM
It would be easy enough to do. Actually I have a hold deck that fits under the rest of it. So every level has at least a flat.

Skunkape
12-27-2010, 09:43 AM
I like the Miniature Scenery stuff also! Want to buy some when I get some disposable income!

mrken
12-27-2010, 03:04 PM
Disposable income? What's that?

tesral
12-27-2010, 03:43 PM
Income the government disposes of for you.

Skunkape
12-28-2010, 07:29 AM
Disposable income? What's that?

What I would have if my wife would keep working!:lol: