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TheRageOfGaia
11-23-2009, 03:30 PM
The other day an issue with Deflect Arrows came up. The description in the Player's Handbook suggests that there is a roll involved. But doesn't specify what it is.

The player believes it should automatically succeed. I'm not so sure that's fair.

Is there something I am missing? Any errata on this? And/or how have you all dealt with the feat?

Sascha
11-23-2009, 04:18 PM
The 3.5 version of the feat does not require a roll; 3.0 had a DC 20(+ weapon's enhancement bonus) Reflex save. The wording, apparently, didn't get updated to reflect this, and still says "attempting..."

DMMike
11-25-2009, 11:31 AM
No roll. Pretty heavy requirements though: open hand, aware of attack, not flat-footed. And it's only once per round. So the idea is that you can do something cool - block a missile - but not too cool, like block EVERY missile in a round, or block missiles for which you're not ready.

Dr.Dead
11-25-2009, 12:51 PM
In 3.5 there is no roll because there are lot of requirements just to use it and you can only use it once a round. But everyone can use it not just monks

d-_-b
11-26-2009, 06:15 AM
One could make an Improved feat which allowed a character to block all incoming missiles when choosing the full defense option. It would be even cooler if it were to count for all missiles within range so you could pull of a Hero -Jet Li style arrow blocking extravaganza.

TheRageOfGaia
11-28-2009, 02:25 AM
Sweet. Yeah, I didn't think there was a roll, but the wording was vague. It is definitely an awesome ability even with the restrictions. When I DM it, I give it an "Oh crap" factor. I.e. the opponent who levels a crossbow at the monk, and fires, only to see his bolt batted out of the air thinks twice about his position in the fight for sure.

nijineko
11-30-2009, 02:06 AM
see "exceptional deflection", and "infinite deflection", epic level handbook; "improved deflection", ghostwalk; and if eberron, "mark of deflection", dragonmarked.

=D

d-_-b
12-01-2009, 04:18 AM
I've never gotten to epic:(

cigamnogard
12-01-2009, 06:25 PM
Keep playing :)

nijineko
12-02-2009, 12:33 AM
keep moving forward...


...and/or find a dm who will shortcut you.

cigamnogard
12-07-2009, 07:31 PM
Ahhhh...I love short cuts

nijineko
12-08-2009, 01:55 AM
the latter two may still prove of use, more the former than the latter.

cigamnogard
12-11-2009, 08:03 PM
I don't know the latter works just as well as the former for me too.